It’s brief, around 25:15

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nf7XHR3EVHo

If you’ve been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they’re excited about the idea. I’ve really enjoyed reading through them :)

    • rayyy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      182·
      6 天前

      Exactly! All a person has to do is to look around - the right buys up all popular media platforms and converts them to propaganda outlets.

    • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth
      146·
      6 天前

      mastodon is already the next twitter, bluesky is just a direct copy of it with nothing keeping it from going the same way. mastodon is open source (can’t be corpoed), federated (can talk to other platforms/instances so being on a small one doesn’t hurt anything), and most importantly, uses a protocol that doesn’t make self-hosting impossible due to storage requirements.

    • dan1101@lemm.eeEnglish
      83·
      6 天前

      I signed up today. I never liked Twitter but I will give it a try. Steam (PC gaming platform) is a member so that’s a plus for me.

    • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
      1213·
      6 天前

      Why bluesky instead of mastodon? It’s like saying lemmy.world is going to replace reddit instead of the Lemmy platform.

      Are you just commenting how the people who use something like twitter are eager to be herded like sheep into the next walled garden?

      Are you part of the bluesky viral marketing campaign to make it artificially seem like it’s “already won”?

      • Dojan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        161·
        6 天前

        I’m wondering this too People are hyped about bluesky but it is the same corpo bullshit that Twitter is. I mean it is literally by the same dude. Why fold?,

        • redacted2@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          6 天前

          Didnt Dorsey already walk from it and gave the reason that it is headed the same way twitter is. Bluesky is being pushed by capitalists because it is a for profit company just like twitter and facebook.

        • JacksonLamb@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          6 天前

          Bizarre that you and that other guy thought “will become the next Twitter” was some sort of praise. It’s not.

          • Dojan@lemmy.worldEnglish
            13·
            6 天前

            I think it’s more bizarre that you think “same corpo bullshit that Twitter is” is some kind of praise.

            • JacksonLamb@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              6 天前

              If you don’t agree with the person above you, maybe don’t start your comment with

              I’m wondering this too.

              Accusing people of being shills for commenting that bluesky is going to become (shitty) like twitter is out of pocket.

      • Uri@infosec.pubEnglish
        6·
        6 天前

        When I said bluesky will be the next Twitter did I said Twitter is a good place. Twitter is now bullshit.

      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        4·
        6 天前

        Why bluesky instead of mastodon?

        Because there is only so much oxygen in the room, and corporate ventures like Bluesky seem to come into really exciting DIY community spaces that are creating amazing things and pull the oxygen out of the room while never quite delivering on what they are promising… or seeming to promise… and in the mean time the projects that originally created the innovative energy in the space are lost in the noise.

        I mean… see basically the entire early history of the commercialization of personal computers for endless repetitions of this pattern.

        Remember we are not the customers of corporate social media companies, we are the raw husks they extract value from through surveillance capitalism and ads/paid content.

    • NotLemming@lemm.eeEnglish
      51·
      6 天前

      My recent experience bluesky social was right wing. I got marked as spam immediately for commenting left wing, polite normal stuff, no arguments or anything controversial. My appeals were ignored for weeks so I left.

      • doingthestuff@lemy.lolEnglish
        4·
        6 天前

        Interesting info, thank you. It isn’t FOSS so I don’t plan on actively using it but I try to keep my finger on what’s up. I don’t miss Reddit and wish I didn’t need a FB for my job. My account is almost a ghost though and I don’t have it on my phone. I’m sure they still have way too much data on me though.

  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    404·
    7 天前

    Not friendica, which seems an obvious facebook alternative.

    Also, I think they’re onto something with their fuck it approach that every social media platform would benefit from. The internet was mostly that before. Content moderation primarily serves advertisers, it was never really for the people. Old internet anarchy was chaotic fun.

    • mke@programming.devEnglish
      13·
      6 天前

      Content moderation primarily serves advertisers

      I’m lost, here. Do you not think fighting toxicity and hate speech is a valid and important function of moderation that’s just as much or more for the sake of the people as it might be for advertisers?

      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        6 天前

        I think the rise of hate speech on centralised platforms relies very heavily on their centralised moderation and curation via algorithms.

        They have all known for a long time that their algorithms promote hate speech, but they know that curbing that behaviour negatively affects their revenue, so they don’t do it. They chase the fast buck, and they appease advertisers who have a naturally conservative bent, and that means rage bait and conventional values.

        That’s quite apart from when platform owners explicitly support that hate speech and actively suppress left leaning voices.

        I think what we have on decentralised systems where we curate/moderate for ourselves works well because most of that open hate speech is siloed, which I think is the best thing you can do with it.

      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        14·
        6 天前

        I think that it’s just words & images on a screen that we could easily ignore like people did before, and people are indulging a grandiose conceit by thinking that moderation is that important or serves any greater cause than the interests of moderators. On social media that seems to be to serve the consumers, by which I mean the advertisers & commercial interests who pay for the attention of users. While the old internet approach of ignoring, gawking at the freakshow, or ridiculing/flaming toxic & hateful shit worked fine then resulting in many people disengaging, ragequitting, or going outside to do something better, that’s not great for advertisers protecting their brand & wanting to keep people pliant & unchallenged as they stay engaged in their uncritical filter bubbles & echo chambers.

        With old internet, safety wasn’t an internet nanny, thought police shit, and “stop burning my virgin eyes & ears”. It was an anonymous handle, not revealing personally identifying information (a/s/l?), not falling for scams & giving out payment information (unless you’re into that kinky shit). Glad to see newer social media returning to some of that.

        • mke@programming.devEnglish
          4·
          6 天前

          Toxicity doesn’t “work fine,” it’s contagious and destructive. For projects, it slows progress. For communities in general, it reinforces bad behavior and pushes out newcomers, leading to more negative spaces, isolation, and stagnation, just off the top of my head. These were issues in older communities just as they are in modern ones.

          I don’t see why we should abandon moderation for your benefit, at the expense of people who care.

          • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
            13·
            6 天前

            For projects, it slows progress.

            Your example of toxicity is linux maintainers resisting a newer programming language, not wanting to maintain additional bindings, and being stubborn about it? People decide whether to work & agree with each other, so what’s your definition of toxicity here? How’s moderation supposed to solve that: force people to agree & work together unwillingly? Seems rather authoritarian. People should only put words & images on a screen that someone approves? More authoritarian. And look at those imaginary problems we can solve!

            This goes back to the grandiose conceit I wrote about earlier: some people can’t get over themselves, take these words & images on a screen a bit too seriously, and feel they know better than others the right words & images to put on a screen, because of course they do. The rest of us know it’s just a bunch of self-important crap that doesn’t matter unless we make it matter, and we can ignore it or put our own words & images on a screen or go outside.

            • mke@programming.devEnglish
              1·
              5 天前

              You streamed together a sequence of misunderstandings, fallacies and self-victimization into an incoherent pile of garbage that fails at actually responding to anything. Got it, got it, you’re god’s bravest warrior, resisting the authoritarianism of people who think others shouldn’t be forced to tolerate your immaturity whenever you act like a cunt. I’ll stop giving you attention now, so sorry.

              • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
                1·
                5 天前

                Victimization is all on those like you threatened by naughty words & images who claim we need some great moderator hero to defend us against their toxicity, which apparently includes work-related disagreements.

                people who think others shouldn’t be forced to tolerate your immaturity whenever you act like a cunt

                And they’ll be objective about it, or is anything someone disagrees with instance of immaturity & someone acting like a cunt? Do we need the noble internet police to swoop in and protect us against your words & images? They’re here, yet somehow the world isn’t crumbling.

        • Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.orgEnglish
          21·
          6 天前

          I wholeheartedly agree, the only censorship should be in the individuals hands and only affects them. Aka blocking other users or content from being displayed on your own account. My moral compass does not need to be everyone’s moral compass.

      • MortUS@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        7 天前

        Imagine traveling down a liminal space of tubes and the only signs are nondescript TLDs.

    • qaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      47·
      6 天前

      Lemmy has also taken over advertiser focused moderation patterns. A great example is NSFW. What is NSFW exactly? Not safe for work? Why is only that relevant?
      NSFW is just used to mark advertiser unfriendly content. Why else group nakedness, violence, sexual content, and death in the same category?
      It’s way too vague to be useful, you have no idea if you’re going to see a nipple or a murder.

      Content warnings like on Mastodon are better, but don’t provide a way to reliably filter out categories. I personally think it would be way better to have specific nested tags for certain types of material.

      • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
        9·
        6 天前

        Are you new to the internet? NSFW literally means what it says: it’s content that would not be safe for you to be viewing at work.

        Advertising has nothing to do with it, which is why you still get ads on NSFW boards on 4chan; they’re just NSFW ads.

  • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    6 天前

    Really hoping legislators in Sweden don’t force Signal to pull its services from the country. 🫣

    • Vinstaal0@feddit.nlEnglish
      21·
      6 天前

      What legislation would do that? Would they want access to your messages or something?

    • badmin@lemm.eeEnglish
      210·
      6 天前

      Signal has been questionable for years. The way it’s been pushed hardly, and how Moxie is emeritus, while much more questionable people are in control, doesn’t fill one with confidence, and does ring some alarm bells. The relative proximity to some in the US establishment should be enough to do that. And the way some have been designating anyone who questions Signal as “Russian Propaganda” and immediately deflecting about how Telegram is bad, is even more curious.

      Frankly, I would trust something like Wire more than Signal. And there are other options too.

      Ideally, something with good security/privacy and is fully P2P would become popular. But those apps/networks never make it mainstream, which is unfortunate.

      • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        6 天前

        There is a lot in here that I don’t understand.

        1. What’s wrong with Moxie? You mean it’s weird he’s an emeritus and not part of the board?
        2. What’s “much more questionable” about the other people? From the descriptions on that page they all seem like standup people.
        3. Could you explain the “relative proximity to some in the US establishment” bit? That was too vague for me to grasp.
        4. “some have been designating anyone who questions Signal as ‘Russian Propaganda’ and immediately deflecting about how Telegram is bad, is even more curious.” — Who has done this, you mean? And why exactly is it “curious”?

        Honestly, there was nothing at all in there that I understood, due to how vague it all was. I would appreciate it if you or someone could fill me in here, because it’s important to know who’s driving this thing, and if the platform can be trusted. I just want to not go by some vague rumors before I make up my mind.

  • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    271·
    7 天前

    I’m sure he’s going to be facing lawsuits from Краснов and Wormtongue any day now.

  • shortrounddev@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    7 天前

    Would like to get my family on Signal. I deleted my facebook account and now we use various other chat apps that I don’t quite like

    • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      17·
      7 天前

      I’ve never understood why people just can’t send messages through text. Like why do they need a special app in order to do it.

      I don’t use Facebook myself and my family members just started texting me and honestly it’s so much easier

      Don’t get me wrong, I definitely think that signal is more secure. I just don’t understand why people just install another app in order to communicate with their family, just let them know you’re available through text

      edit: I want to clarify that I may not have been clear/missed saying in this post, I’m not saying people shouldn’t(if people would change I would love it), I’m saying I don’t understand why people do knowing that your family members aren’t going to care and are just going to text you anyway as has been my experience

      • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        7 天前

        SMS is incredibly antiquated as soon as you want to do anything multimedia, or heck sending an SMS longer than 144 characters.

        My mother received a video over SMS the other day and it legitimately looked like it was filmed on a Nokia 6310.

        I’ve encouraged my family to use Signal to replace SMS and it functions really well as an SMS upgrade. It’s more secure, private, supports sending decent quality multimedia, the interface is simplistic, it has formatting, does video calls well, and you can send a long message without it being a hacked together string of 5 messages.

        From both a security and usability perspective, it wins out on SMS in my opinion.

        Edit: there’s also the nightmare of group chats with SMS. I hate when extended family try to use it

        • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          7 天前

          Don’t get me wrong, I agree with everything you’ve said here.

          SMS and MMS are an antique technology, I can’t argue that. But it’s not going to change the fact that my family is not going to install another messaging app on their device in order to talk to me. They’re going to text me or call me anyway so therefore there’s no point, and hopefully with the improvements on the RCS standard the issues that have occurred with SMS and MMS will go away.

          As is I have four different messaging apps on my phone ignoring my messages app, signal (which I can count on one hand the amount of my friends that have an account), Discord which the majority of my online friends are on, and less than a handful of my relatives are on. Telegram which I mostly have for artists, and Revolt which I really should uninstall but like I really want that project to go somewhere.

          My family is almost exclusively on Facebook messenger, I do not use Facebook Messenger, sms/rcs is the only system that my relatives and I both have, and they’re not about to install another app, to talk to one person which would be me.

          So yes I fully agree with everything you’ve stated there, 100%. But it’s a perfect example of how on paper it sounds amazing but in practice it doesn’t work. At the end of the day my family is going to text me regardless if I tell them that I’m on Signal, because I’m not on Facebook and they already have SMS on their phone

          • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            7 天前

            Oh in practice it works quite well for me, basically all my friends and family use Signal now. You can slightly push them towards that, explain the obvious pros, it’s simple to install, so it’s just a small matter of convincing. I only rarely use WhatsApp for some external groups.

            • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              7 天前

              Whatsapp isn’t really a thing in my area but man is Facebook messenger is, but yeah nice that you were able, I didn’t have much luck with my relatives to switch over to signal or Discord back when it took off, they just sort of stayed on Facebook.

              My online friend group had a higher adoption rate for discord from skype at first but, that might just be because I refused to give them my phone number so they couldn’t access me elsewhere.

              Really the only group that I had really have an interest in other alternatives, was my cybersecurity class in college, but even they tended to straight towards Discord more than signal (which is insane to me)

      • Alloi@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        7 天前

        i imagine its because text messages are saved by your provider and can be used or accessed by law enforcement even if deleted. but that may or may not be an issue for most people swapping recipes or talking to their family about normal every day stuff.

        • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          7 天前

          Yeah I believe that, the people I have on my signal are generally ones that are worried that the cops are going to track them or something. I fully agree that privacy is important, unfortunately my family and the general public care is significantly less

      • shortrounddev@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        6 天前

        SMS is a pain in the ass. iOS users aren’t using SMS, they’re using a proprietary system which is inaccessible to android users. Occasionally a 1-on-1 text works with RCS but it’s janky

        • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          6 天前

          IOS has had native RCS since they launched IOS 18 back in like August/September-ish, I haven’t had much issue with support from IOS to Android RCS side, but I’m not sure what my family in Florida use for their iphones, I expect older models might struggle. I have however had issues with communicating with my mom, but I believe it’s because she doesn’t understand that when she has RCS enabled, and she turns off data, it wants to try using RCS, then fails, and then falls-back to SMS, which for some reason Samsung Messages struggles with.

          Personally speaking though, my S20 hasen’t had any issues with RCS period, its always been other devices not actually sending proceeding to error and then the person not noticing it so therefore not retrying

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    7 天前

    I feel like the DNC are being pushed into a blindspot for the general public.

    All Bernie has done is go around to speak at different events, and he is far from the only politician to do so.

    • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
      55·
      6 天前

      It’s what the DNC wants. They want to only be seen as the “lesser evil” to people like trump.

      They genuinely have no interest in helping the working class, because they’re not a part of it.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        56·
        6 天前

        Socialized healthcare, removing money from politics, and taxing the rich is not “the lesser evil” it’s fucking good. It’s blatantly a force of great good that we keep snubbing and blaming for no reason at all.

        What we should be doing is giving them majorities and supermajorities and praising them for the great work they do.

        • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
          102·
          6 天前

          They don’t care about doing any of that, though. They only make promises to get elected and reneg on everything once in office.

          Did any of that happen while Biden was in office? Didn’t think so. It’s because he’s a stooge propped up by the ruling class to make people like you think he has your interests at hand. He doesn’t. Establishment democrats do not want to raise taxes on the wealthy. That’s a progressive agenda.

          • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            34·
            6 天前

            Those are literally laws they have written, voted on, and in some cases actually passed before.

              • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                52·
                6 天前

                In 1995 until 2002 they attempted to ban large campaign contributions and SUCCEEDED until it was struck down in 2010 by a conservative split SCOTUS decision 5-4 in Citizens United

                In 2013 they used the caucusing IND supermajority to vote for public option healthcare coverage and it lost by 1 vote (the IND betrayed us) so instead we got Medicaid Expansion which combined with Childrens Health Insurance Program payed for the medical costs of 79 Million Americans currently.

                The previous Tax Plan was written and passed by the GOP after 2016 elections, and it expires THIS YEAR meaning the GOP get to write the next tax plan, too. Can you guess what Kamala Harris’ tax plan was? It was to lower taxes for earners below 400k, tax unrealized gains for the rich, raise taxes for the wealthy in general.

                • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                  54·
                  6 天前

                  If democrats really wanted to reduce the disparity in wealth, why would they avoid nominating Bernie twice?

                  It was to lower taxes for earners below 400k, tax unrealized gains for the extremely rich, raise taxes for the wealthy in general.

                  I’ve seen this one before! The only part that “gets through” are the tax cuts for those making >$100k per year!

                  This is why establishment democrats don’t want people like Bernie. They’re part of the problem and want to keep profiting off of it.

  • beeng@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    133·
    6 天前

    You don’t just trade 1 powerful ceo for another when you get the chance to leave. Ridiculous.

  • GaMEChld@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    7 天前

    Can anyone explain Bluesky vs Mastodon as Twitter alternatives, asking as someone who never really used Twitter much anyway?

    • Otter@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      42·
      7 天前

      On the surface, both of them look very similar in format. They also both advertise themselves as decentralized and different from traditional social media, arguing that they won’t face the same problems old social media did.

      Mastodon uses ActivityPub, which is the widely used standard that most other fediverse platforms use. Mastodon is properly decentralized, where all the servers can interact and operate independently.

      BlueSky made their own protocol that they control, citing that ActivityPub wasn’t enough for what they wanted to do, and in some ways that’s true. However with their structure, a central relay is needed in order for different instances to interact and so people argue that it isn’t truly decentralized. Right now BlueSky is either the only instance, or basically the only instance. They’ve mentioned that they could transfer control of the relay to some other organization, but past that I don’t think they’ve taken any steps towards that.

      BlueSky is also a VC backed company while Mastodon is now under a nonprofit. BlueSky has its roots in crypto tech. There is more technical discussion on if it’s even possible to have a decentralized BlueSky and if it’s all just talk while they gather users.

      My personal opinion is that I really hope bluesky does what they’re promising, but I’m not expecting them to be any different than Twitter once they get a critical mass of users and the investors demand profits / infinite growth.

      • PieMePlenty@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        6 天前

        Bluesky is what happens when someone with a corporate mindset wants to make something new and good. Mastodon happens when hobbyists get together and make something. Ive heard BlueSky has a board of people in charge to make sure it doesn’t end up like twitter. Exactly what one would expect a company to do. Make sure something doesnt go wrong? Put a few people in charge. Mastodon just has the whole community. I may be wrong here as I dont use either. Right now Im just wondering what will happen when BlueSkys provider comes knocking with the hosting bill. As mass social media migrations are rare, its just a shame people are leaving twitter for another big tech site instead of something more community grown.

      • lepinkainen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        6 天前

        For me the advantage of Bluesky is that I can own my identity. I can reserve myusername@mydomain.tld and use that, without having to run my own instance.

        With Mastodon I’d have to put up a full-ass server instance and worry about federation etc just to have my “own” identity instead of myusername@mastodon.social or something

      • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        7·
        6 天前

        from what i understand, a decentralized bluesky is nothing for an enduser at all.

        TL;DR: the cost for an enduser to run a bluesky instance will soon be prohibitive because of the amount of storage needed owed to its shared heap architecture. but what it does is to provide a “credible exit” - if users lose trust or the company shutters, there’s nothing in the way of another organisation picking up the mantle and continue from there on.

      • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
        11·
        6 天前

        BlueSky made their own protocol that they control, citing that ActivityPub wasn’t enough for what they wanted to do

        Sounds like bullshit for useful idiots that don’t know what they’re talking about.

    • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
      22·
      6 天前

      There’s a viral marketing campaign going on right now to herd the twitter sheep to the next rich-person’s platform. That’s why we keep seeing useful idiots say “bluesky” instead of “Mastodon.”