• grue@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Reminder: electric cars are just as terrible for walkability and good urbanism as fossil fuel ones. Keep your eyes on the ball, folks!

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      4 months ago

      I kind of disagree on ‘just as terrible’ noise/space sure, but not being able to smell the petrol is such a biggie for me.

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        3 months ago

        the fact that they don’t sit there going BRUBRUBRUBRUBRUB idling honestly does a lot for comfort in already walkable places where cars end up standing still or going slow a lot

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    4 months ago

    Every personal vehicle I’ve owned has been used. There’s nothing wrong with them so long as they’ve been maintained. Commercial vehicles might be replaced every ten or twenty years depending on the use.

    If combustion vehicles were banned tomorrow, it’s not like the industry would just collapse. The manufacturers have so many fresh off the line vehicles piling up that they could stop assembly today and still have stock for a few years.

    They could retool the factories inside a couple years, and resume churning out EVs as if nothing changed. The major issue we’d face would be the infrastructure crumbling around the additional weight, but that’s another discussion entirely.

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      4 months ago

      I find the additional weight argument pretty lame considering SUVs and just general size increases have been adding huge amount of weight to cars and noone batted an eye.

      Just 30 years ago, the most common cars in Europe, hatchbacks, weighted about 1 ton. Now, the vast majority is SUVs that weigh 1.5-2.5tons, none have lithium batteries.

      Oh, and don’t get me started on the SUV/pickup craze in the US - look at the weight increase on that vs a European sedan, hatchback or a station wagon - eletric cars are not the problem, this are.

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        4 months ago

        A huge part of that issue in america at least is related to the CAFE standards which basically made it economically unviable to build small and effecient cars. Unfortunately i think american evs will also be bigger and heavier than needed which means they’ll need a bigger battery, have a higher cost, remain deadly for pedestrians and take up lots of urban space.

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          4 months ago

          I’m familiar with CAFE standards but US politicians don’t seem to have much intent on changing them.

          And it is not economically unviable, it is just not as profitable because every other country produces and sells properly sized cars with a profit (except maybe Australia).