Evil was a stretch, sure. Though while I appreciate the concept of not attributing malice to what incompetence explains, I think that needs to be couched by whether or not a profit is being turned by the action.

Someone? I’m talking about having a corporation admit it’s own wrongdoing, not a specific individual.

While the company admitted no wrongdoing, it must pay $1.7 million in civil penalties, as well as $277,251 to cover investigation costs as well as to “support future enforcement of consumer protection laws.”

Why is it we allow these companies to pretend they did no evil? The penalty should have been a couple orders of magnitude higher, and they should have had to admit what they did. Obviously we don’t live in a world where both those things would happen, but we don’t even get one of them?

They surely made more than two million doing this and so the fine is meaningless. The real way to make it meaningful would be to force the admission of guilt, and then use the admission as justification to stop them from buying out the competition for 18 billion dollars.

Look how they deceived their customers, good thing they can do it to even more customers now!

When I wrote that it was taking Boeing at its word, I was leaning more into a possibility of leadership changing their minds.

All I was really getting at by commenting about the contract was that corporate greed exists

The point I was trying to convey is that companies are run by people and people are corruptable.

I’m of the opinion there are no lines a company won’t cross if there’s a dollar to be made

I even said:

You’re correct to say there’s no reason to think any specific contact would be violated.

And yet you continue to harp on about this, and now tell me to go do some reading? Read the comments you’re replying to.

You haven’t conceded a single thing or even mentioned any of the rebuttals I have made to you points, and you continue to attack what I have repeatedly stated as only being my opinions.

I should have trusted my instinct beforehand. This isn’t a discussion. This is a waste of effort.

I guess the point I made three times didn’t get across to you, did it.

Ah so that’s the line you think they won’t cross? Glad we were able to narrow that down.

I’m of the opinion there are no lines a company won’t cross if there’s a dollar to be made, and there’s decades of evidence this is the case. It wasn’t that long ago that big business would hire people to give a beat down to protesting workers.

It’s not my goal to change the minds of people online. Ultimately this conversation has boiled down to me having an opinion based on actions I have seen taken against workers, and you believing there is a line in the sand that “cannot” be crossed because the company is smart enough not to.

We aren’t getting anywhere by continuing.

The point I was trying to convey is that companies are run by people and people are corruptable. You’re correct to say there’s no reason to think any specific contact would be violated. It’s folly however, to think companies never take action against a union as a whole or a worker individually.

Given the recent whistleblowers that have stopped being alive in recent Boeing memory, I don’t think it’s alarmist to suggest they might not be a trustworthy bunch.

Either way, my apologies for the way I half heartedly wrote something the other day.

“Ireland does not give preferential tax treatment to any companies or taxpayers,” stated a spokesperson from the Irish Ministry of Finances.

I wish the media would eviscerate these people like they used to.

Hahaha cheers mate for the laugh. Didn’t realize I was wasting my time with you.

I realize the math is marginally inaccurate - precision wasn’t really the goal of what I wrote. We’re on the same page so far as the disingenuous headline goes.

Where we disagree I suppose is the contract being binding. You’re right of course, from a legal perspective, a signed contract is an agreement that must be upheld. When I wrote that it was taking Boeing at its word, I was leaning more into a possibility of leadership changing their minds.

All I was really getting at by commenting about the contract was that corporate greed exists - in Boeing of all places this is a certainty.

Giant companies pull these maneuvers all the time at the expense of the people they employ, their own customers, or both. I don’t think most of what I wrote was wrong. Inaccurate maybe? I can live with that.

I agree, the last four years have been rough. They could just make the 25% raise not only effective immediately, but retroactive from the beginning of the pandemic.

According to a quick search, the average IAM worker earns a salary of about $70k. This retroactive payment would cost about two billion dollars. They can afford it.

Every time some headline comes out with significant increases, it always turns out to be ‘over x years’.

This isn’t a 25% raise, it’s taking Boeing at their word they will give 6.25% every year only for the next four. Six percent doesn’t cover the inflated costs of anything anymore, let alone allow for wealth building or retirement saving.

These people would never strike again if they got a real 25% raise and a guaranteed bump equal to twice the inflation in the years to come. But as always, when the C suite’s horizon is only as far as next quarter, the people are seen merely as an expense - not an investment.

Oddly enough, last year I used dish soap in the laundry for a few months without noticing, and nothing like this happened. I was surprised when I looked it up and saw this kind of thing as a common occurrence. Couldn’t believe I had picked up this container each weekend for months without noticing the picture of plates and glasses on the front.

I understand now these soaps are quite different from one another and the fact nothing happened to me is a fluke, so definitely don’t do this on purpose.

These things happen to everyone from time to time.

I myself misworded some comments just the other day in frustration and inadvertently caused an upset. No worries at all. It’s big of you to come in here and correct yourself. It speaks volumes to the type of person you are.

Cheers.

I’ve been using Organic Maps (from F-Droid) and it has a “Keep the screen on” option in the settings. That said, I’ve never had the screen dim while navigating to a destination. The setting I mentioned prevents timeout when you’ve got the map open but not on route somewhere.

In most places all ‘bicycle infrastructure’ means is some paint splashed next to the curb of major thoroughfares.

What I wouldn’t give for bike parking areas at the local shops.

If this man doesn’t have a need for an input matrix, I don’t know who would.

Entirely anecdotal, but we’re setting up for a fruit and vegetable garden next season. Having a portion of either with each meal was how we were raised, but doing so from the grocery is pushing our bill up a good $100 a month.

Overall this isn’t much of a surprise. Since the industrial revolution, the production value of one worker has grown exponentially. Salaries, not so much. A prime side effect of this disparity is the demise of the stay at home parent. The ratio of people this was a reality for vs the ones it wasn’t has entirely inverted. All this in a handful of generations.

A home garden should be more of a hobby than a requirement.

Every personal vehicle I’ve owned has been used. There’s nothing wrong with them so long as they’ve been maintained. Commercial vehicles might be replaced every ten or twenty years depending on the use.

If combustion vehicles were banned tomorrow, it’s not like the industry would just collapse. The manufacturers have so many fresh off the line vehicles piling up that they could stop assembly today and still have stock for a few years.

They could retool the factories inside a couple years, and resume churning out EVs as if nothing changed. The major issue we’d face would be the infrastructure crumbling around the additional weight, but that’s another discussion entirely.

Imagine how amazing you would feel as a child to have a possession of yours put on display at a museum. Even if it was temporary, you’d remember that for the rest of your days.