• exscape@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    Ubuntu is just getting worse and worse. I was pretty happy running Ubuntu server for years after moving from Gentoo; I jag lost interest in spending time taking care for that server and wanted something easy.

    I went to Debian half a year ago and it’s been great. Should’ve done it earlier.

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      6 months ago

      I never understood why people run Ubuntu on servers. It’s madness. Ubuntu is a fork of unstable Debian packages. You don’t want unstable on your server!

      Ubuntu on Desktop I can understand. Back in the days the Debian release was really long so much software was a tad outdated after a couple of years. But Debian had a much faster release cycle now, and had pretty much incorporated all the good stuff from Ubuntu and left the bad behind.

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        6 months ago

        Ubuntu is a fork of unstable Debian packages. You don’t want unstable on your server!

        Unstable does not mean crashes all the time. What makes them unstable on Debian is they can change and break API completely. But guess what, Ubuntu freezes the versions for their release and maintains their own security patches, completely mitigating that issue.

        There are other reasons you might not want to use Ubuntu on a server but package version stability is not one of them.

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        6 months ago

        Ubuntu is a fork of unstable Debian packages

        And where do you think debian stable packages come from exactly ?..

        it’s basicaly the exact same thing. In both case :

        • At some point freeze unstable (snapshot unstable in case of ubuntu),
        • fix bugs found in the frozen set of packages,
        • release as stable.
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        6 months ago

        Ubuntu on Desktop I can understand.

        Not anymore. A whole extra, unneeded, proprietary, locked-in package system. Ads in the default install.

        There’s Mint, Pop!, and plenty of other options that actually respect the user.

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          6 months ago

          Definitely. But back in the day it was good for desktops. Ubuntu has never been good for servers.

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        6 months ago

        It was awesome back when during the install you could just select “LAMP”, and a full stack web server suite would be automatically set up and configured correctly out of the box. But those days are long gone.

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        6 months ago

        Mhm I have Ubuntu LTS on my server because my VPS provider provided me with it. :/

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        6 months ago

        You don’t want unstable on your server!

        “But they are maintaiend for 5 years!”