• Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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    What I fear. Biden just weak and his presidency been meh. I will vote for him but will enough people do the same in the states that count.

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      The infrastructure bill was a big accomplishment. With that said, I don’t really care for his personality and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn’t get.

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        and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn’t get.

        Manchin and (especially) Sinema made that impossible.

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          I am voting for him again because I don’t want trump or any other of the Republican candidates as my president. But could we have a better democratic candidate? Definitely

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            There’s a very real chance the vice president ends up taking charge, Biden does look like he could die of old age any day now

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            Could we, though? Who would you propose would be better without scaring off swing voters who are more afraid of imaginary socialism than real fascism?

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              I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare.

              The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can’t say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist.

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                Calling it a “narrative” doesn’t make it not true. It wouldn’t have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that’s without swing voters’ goldfish memories fucking things up.

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          Yeah, I think he’s been an okay president, and he could serve another term. I also don’t think Trump should have that power.

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        Sure how many train derailment under his watch. Oh yeah thanks to him rail workers can’t strike.

        And I don’t hear bullshit “He GoT tHeM a RaSiE LaTeR” nonsense. The strike wasn’t just about sick time which got them what 1 day. It was about how the fucking greedy rail companies were endangering lives and not fixing the infrastructure.

        Also Biden sold more oil leases then Trump so naw not good on the environment either.

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          I see a salty downvoter doesn’t like facing reality. Truth is we’re not going to get a good candidate, Trump is the front runner and it’s got people riled up. I don’t see “good” in the next election cycle, I just see “shitty and less shitty”. A shitty leader is still a shitty leader, and it’s going to add to the apathy issue we have as well while empowering populist nutjobs.

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            I expect the downvote train, but I want just everyone to remember that in America the Establishment A and Establishment B have both decided to go against the regular American. Whenever you doubt it, just remember Clinton cut off welfare benefits and Bush enforced it, Bush cut immigration and Obama was deporter in chief, Obamacare only got expanded under Trump with anything medical becoming subsidized. The actual record is way longer but it is a big club and we are not in it, believing that either represents you 100% is an obvious lie that people for some reason try to internalize, to the benefit of these bloodsuckers.

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              That’s the real truth of it, instead of whining about “don’t let the other guy win” what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich.

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      And I think it’s one more thing that Poland will copy from US. People got super exited when the right wing government lost the election but my prediction has always been that the “progressive” government will be extremely meh and in 4 years they will lose anyway.

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        Yeah, among polls of weird freaks who actually answer polls. Plus, do you even know how these are conducted? People under 60 don’t answer calls from unknown numbers, nor do they have the landline phones that pollers call. Traditional media paradigms are dead and polls are now meaningless, it’s time to adapt or die now.

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            I mean, you’re defending polling that hasn’t been great for the least few elections and has meant almost nothing except for Trump winning the republican primary (obviously).

            I saw several polls saying that issue 1 in Ohio would barely pass. Definitely didn’t have polls predicting big dem wins this November either.

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            People should be looking at this and getting involved to make sure younger people vote.

            Or maybe politicians should actually do shit for younger people to make them want to vote for them instead of spitting in their face and assuming they will get their vote because the other guy is worse.

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            While I completely agree that people need to get active now and beat down the apathy, focusing on flawed data and developing a defeatist attitude probably isn’t good for the soul.

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        Nationally, democrats have been beating polls at the ballot box by 9+ points since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

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        *according to a couple of breathlessly recited outlier polls.

        A year is a lifetime in politics, and again, those few polls were statistical outliers.