• FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    Friendly reminder that a defining characteristic of a fascist is drawing hard in-group out-group lines.

    (And another is the fetishization and glorification of violence against the out-group)

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      1 year ago

      Wait, I’m even more confused. Are you saying the OP who posted is creating the demarcations for groups?

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          1 year ago

          Wish there was common nomenclature for referring to posters or parts of a comment to make the context clearer. Friends say I am on the spectrum but the Psychologist said that doesn’t seem to be the case.

          Like, OP1 is lame, OP2 supports genocide, etc. to clarify within a thread without having to quote or @ which I find a bit clumsy and generally gets in the way of flow.

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            Wish there was common nomenclature for referring to posters or parts of a comment to make the context clearer.

            For comments, that’s how I do it.

            Throw one, too, or three asterisks around each side of the sentence you want to highlight.

            No need for special verbage or nomenclature. It’s done visually.

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              Yeah I think what I dislike about that is it breaks up the flow of whatever I am writing. There’s a coherence that is lost.

              I’m accustomed to reading books or essays where there might be an excerpt, but more likely a paraphrase of what the author considers their opponent’s argument to be. This makes it helpful at times to pinpoint a misunderstanding in the author.

              But yeah, having consistent rules on the internet for posting is a losing battle I think. More or less thinking out loud, appreciate the comment.

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                Yeah I think what I dislike about that is it breaks up the flow of whatever I am writing.

                No, It doesn’t have to.

                You can just write it out straight, without formatting, and then after you’re done that go back and add the asterisks to emphasize the parts that you want to emphasize, already having your thoughts jotted down.

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            1 year ago

            This sounds like a great idea!

            I’ll clarify, I’m just putting out a reminder that being fascist is not an inherent trait, like green eyes or dark skin. Literally anyone can fall into the trap of fascist thinking. The only way to be truly anti-fascist is to recognize the warning signs in your own thoughts and worldview.

            So centrism can sometimes be a trap, but don’t demonize the practice of seeing both sides. Taking a hard line with one sides is a step on the path to becoming a fascist.

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                1 year ago

                For sure I think Nazis and Tankies are both gross, and I have a kind of out-group bias against them, but I never advocate for violence against them.

                Except maybe punching Nazis, but nothing serious damaging or life threatening.

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              So centrism can sometimes be a trap, but don’t demonize the practice of seeing both sides.

              Wise words.

              It’s how Peace is achieved.

              Taking a hard line with one sides is a step on the path to becoming a fascist.

              And War, and death.

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            1 year ago

            Ah yes, the “I have a black friend” defense.

            I have Jewish friends, so I trust you won’t call me antisemitic for saying Israel is structurally racist and authoritarian.

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                Why would a Jew choose to live in the West Bank when there’s a much more pleasant country next door offering them citizenship? Your analogy is so flawed I have a hard time thinking you’re making it in good faith.

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                  Well, according to your own words, Israel is a fascist state, hunting down Arab minorities. I have shown an example how a representative of an Arab minority has held an extremely high rank in Israel society, and I believe this fact undermines your claim, hence Israel is not a fascist state.

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                Wasn’t Hitlers physician at one point a Jewish person? I don’t think one example is really all that telling.

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              If you have a Jewish friends then you really aren’t anti semitic are you?

              Such a smooth brain comment.

              Not to mention a huge amount of Israelis themselves criticise the current government and what it’s done.

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      1 year ago

      Would that still count if it’s “In group = civilians” " out group = organizations killing civilians"?