I looked him up and he is English. Weren’t English sailors called Limeys because of the lime juice in their rations, specifically for scurvy prevention? He should have signed up with the Admiralty instead of the pirates.
Funny enough…
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The lime juice was meant as a cheaper alternative to lemon juice. And it wasn’t very effective, lmao. National militaries and sabotaging the health of their troops to save a buck - name a more iconic duo.
It was cheaper in the sense of they imported from limes from the Carribean and lemons from India, which with no Suez canal is a pretty big difference. And at the same time they invented steam power, shortening voyages so the reduced effectiveness wasn’t noticed until longer voyages due to newer military doctrines occurred again
Well, the reduced effectiveness was noticed. It created significant uncertainty, funny enough, over the actual causes of scurvy, since apparently citrus fruit wasn’t enough, until more rigorous studies happened in the 20th century.
“National militaries and sabotaging the health of their troops to save a buck - name a more iconic duo.”
That literally sounds like america though
It’s, sadly, applicable to most militaries throughout history and the modern day.
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Taking care of yourself is gay. “Real men” reduce their life expectancy by purposefully living an unhealthy lifestyle.
Damn, I never realized I was so masculine!
The whole man flu thing is also goofy because I’m pretty sure I’ve read men typically avoid going to the doctor for things they absolutely should be going to the doctor over. Then again, it’s my understanding that doctors will blow off things women tell them so it’s just an overall shitty state of affairs.
Uhh, I once found good information on why that is:
Testosterone raises the pain threshold, so men are usually more resistant to pain and more prone to “tough it out”. But Testosterone also makes people more vulnerable to typical cold and flu symptoms.
So while men do have a higher pain tolerance than non-pregnant women (pregnancy hormones really hit different) they also suffer more severe symptoms.
I literally don’t believe that about testosterone and pain, and yes I looked up studies and they are there, you are correct. I think it’s probably cognitive priming affecting results, the idea men should be more resistant to pain so they do so, similar to how IQ tests cause discrepancies (See: Delusions of Gender by Cordelia Fine).
In my actual experience as a proDominatrix beating people, men with testosterone tolerate SIGNIFICANTLY less pain than estrogenized counterparts. And these are men in MMA and former military etc. They just can’t mentally handle agony the same for the most part. I don’t think they enjoy the sensate texture of pain like women subs do. Stuff that makes women moan and whimper makes men scream and yelp and jump back in shocked pain. And perhaps this has to do with cognitive priming relating to their perception of me; however I will say even pretransition subs follow this. A transwoman who has never taken hormones tolerates pain the same as a ciswoman in my experience. I think we force women to tolerate abuse automatically and they just tend to deal with it better, and enjoy playing with the sensation more. I also think women tend to be more skilled at empathy and tend to tolerate pain better when I’m feeling something strongly - I think they go on my emotional journey as a Domme to escape their emotional journey as a sub.
Re: cognitive priming - Look at all the videos of period cramp simulators - men have been cognitively primed to quit earlier and do quit most of the time while women chill and pokerface.
And I’ve had other Dom(mes) agree, including male Doms, about this. Women tolerate pain and violence more in real life settings, and also tend to request it more.
Now there are two distinct parameters of pain tolerance and maybe that’s where the study is confusing itself, because I don’t see clarity between these definitions. One is pain sensitivity, how much pain you actually feel. There is a woman in the UK with a lot of natural anandamide* who isn’t senstive to pain at all - but if she feels equivalent pain to another person for some reason, it’s possible she cannot tolerate it the same. Tolerating pain is different than how much pain we actually feel, but science has a hard time measuring these things. Perhaps testosterone does indeed help “numb” people to pain, but I still think women tolerate or endure actual pain sensation better.
Oh and PS cognitive priming is likely why men don’t go to the doctor as well
Excellent write up. I think there are different kinds of pain and we’d need to measure to account for that.
When I’m at the BDSM club the women generally want and can take more pain. (Some guys are totally insane though.)
When I’m in my gravel biking group it’s very much the opposite. The dudes will slide down 20 ft of gravel and their legs look like someone took a cheese grater to them. They have a laugh, hop back on the bike, and finish the ride with blood in their shoes. The ladies generally take a little spill and loose a little skin and they are crying and want help walking their bike back to the car. (Some chicks are hard as nails though.)
I’m pretty sure I’ve read men typically avoid going to the doctor for things they absolutely should be going to the doctor over.
Maybe we should be looking into the cause of this and rectifying the cause instead of just leaving it as some random thing and I mean actually look into the cause and not speculate based on bigoted or misinformed biases
“Fuck yeah! My low testosterone, erectile dysfunction and abysmal fitness are just due to my 380 pound pure manliness!” - A “real” man
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This is my favorite take. My wife’s a teacher so I hear (by proxy) all sorts of hot takes on masculinity. All sorts of Andrew Tate shit. Even some in relation to a Canadian pill addict psychologist.
I’ve always thought the most masculine thing was to not bother yourself with the opinions of lessers.
The masculine thing is to be assured in yourself and not seek validation through unscientific nonsense.
But… But… consider the lobster…
Not about lessers, just others.
You do you is a great mantra, as long as you doing you isn’t negatively affecting others.
Does this canadian pill addict psychologist sound like Kermit?
According to the internet, he did it at university, eating nothing but mince, chicken, and mayonnaise for about 2 months. He did so to annoy other students in his classes who were vegan or vegetarian.
I’ve actually heard a few stories of uni students getting scurvy, although they were because they either didn’t know how to cook or couldn’t afford food.
That makes more sense. Although I think the carnivore diet is stupid, most people that are doing it or similar diets eat organ meats, many of which contain sufficient vitamin C among many other important vitamins and minerals.
Eating chicken salad with a spoon every day seems like it would cause all kinds of dietary issues.
To be fair, he said he did this his first year in college- everyone did dumb shit in college.
So… is it ok to move your human to an all meat diet?
Quite apparently no. Give your omnivorous human the vitamins it needs!
You can get that good, scurvy-busting vitamin C from meat just fine, all you have to do is eat it raw
“You wouldn’t pirate an illness”
One sure sign that you’re not masculine, is doing things to show others how masculine you are.
In medival times if you could afford to only eat meat it meant you were a rich soft fancy boy.
Pretty much the same as now then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyOf3DKZaFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yzHgQ1m-E
here, sadly it is in german, but this guy is an absolute expert in medival history
he talks extensivly about food in medival times.
ACTUALLY rich people loved to eat white bread. white bread was expensive
It seems like many in here dont realise that you can be gay and masculine at the same time.
then why are my masc 4 masc posts never answered
In the same way that you can be straight and feminine at the same time.
I would argue that people who feel the need to prove their masculinity tend to be the ones not realizing that, and people here are making fun of that.
On one hand it’s stupid to sabotage your health to appear more masculine. On the other hand casually bringing up that you have contracted a pirate illness in conversation does sound pretty damn masculine.
It is pretty funny that eating meat is still seen as a masculine thing. Pff what? Tofu? No i buy my meat like a real man in this other isle, next to the tofu.
It’s funny because eating flesh and blood is a “woman” thing in most species. Ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, flies - all the ones biting you are female looking for a blood meal. Arguably, in ancient times men gathering meat was probably to provide for the women in their lives. Even roosters will do this for their hens - bring them bugs or peck at food on the ground to show the hen where it is without eating it.
That all being said, the gender dichotomy is stupid and we are a bit more sophisticated than all that.
that sounds made up
It’s not. You should develop some science literacy if you think that sounds made up and don’t know how to verify it yourself. Ofc, I will say every species is a little different and not every single mosquito species even bites humans for example. But as a general rule, yeah, I’m right.
Only the female mosquito bites and feeds on the blood of humans or other animals. https://www.epa.gov/mosquitocontrol/mosquito-life-cycle#:~:text=Only the female mosquito bites,conditions for a few months.
an adult female flea lays eggs following a blood meal from the host https://www.petmd.com/dog/parasites/evr_multi_understanding_the_flea_life_cycle
After a female tick feeds and is engorged with blood, she releases pheromones to attract a mate. https://mosquitojoe.com/blog/understanding-the-tick-lifecycle/
The female then must locate a blood-meal to complete development of her eggs. https://mmcd.org/black-fly-life-cycle/
For the roosters - this is a well recorded and observed behavior you can watch on TT or wherever. Not all roos do it, but it’s pretty common nonetheless with thousands of videos observing this: https://youtu.be/ynhzfbZ0oGk?si=vhEtGxP5VI33sB-L
You forget the scientific study that came to the conclusion that blood sucking and meat eating is a female thing.
it is exclusivly YOU that made the connection. You said MOST species, you mentioned like a handfull. You had this gothic romantic idea, and you chose these papers to fit you idea.
you should develop some sience literacy.
you should not make up stuff, period.
https://mitpressbookstore.mit.edu/book/9780385350549
Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution
By biomass, yes most animal species do have females who engage in blood meals https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-the-biomass-of-earth-in-one-graphic/
Maybe I’m slow or something, but I don’t get how eating meat is masculine.
Not slow, just lucky to have not encountered such cretins. There is a very non-zero amount of men who believe that ‘traditional’ masculinity includes avoiding ‘feminine’ foods, including ‘rabbit food’ (ie anything green, leafy, or vaguely healthy). The meat-only diet is the natural extension of this line of thinking to the full caveman-stereotype conclusion.
Sounds like insecurity to me.
Very much so.
The stupidest thing is that actual cave people probably couldn’t catch meat daily and thus also ate a lot of gathered plants.
could also be the belief that red meat increases testosterone, so they become high t alpha males
If the alternative is scurvy I’d rather just be a dude with a dick that likes vag that’s emasculate.
I’ll take all the testosterone pussy you pass up.
You see, like, wolves eat meat, and they are masc as fuck. You ever seen a gay wolf? Wait no don’t look tha- screaming in terror
(signed, a gay af wolf <3)
I bet his life is brilliant.
But is his love pure?
I wonder if he saw an angel.
Of that I’m sure.
I’m sure he did
Did you smile at him on a subway?
Are you speaking of today’s video’s sponsor: Brilliant™?
#notallmen
As a man without scurvy, I can personally attest that not all men have scurvy
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