I understand that argument, but this is clean cut “by law” of literally law breaking theft. Our social contract “allows” exploitation of the working class. :(
I absolutely agree, I was just trying to get at the idea that this information can’t exactly be argued with if we’re going by theft in respect to the actual law.
Once you bring labor value theory into it you get a ton of resistance and closed minds. It’s better to keep that out of the equation for now if this information is to be used to convince people of an actual legal problem that isn’t being addressed where there isn’t any new law or legislation that needs to be created, just enforcement of existing laws.
You don’t even need labor theory of value though. Definitely a step up, less wrong and even flirts with justice sometimes, but you don’t need to say what’s right to prove some obvious bullshit is wrong.
This system doesn’t work for us, we didn’t consent, and instead of fixing any of it they just hand their thugs more fancy military surplus shit.
The fact you think laws will literally ever be on the side of justice tho, that’s just adorable. Laws are an excuse to divide the population, to create exceptions that can be safely targeted without resistance from the broader population. They’re literally just some divide and conquer shit. Don’t support their premise. If you want to do something based on their propaganda and try to make then good after, we can argue about it then if at least one of us and a sock still exists (if I’m the sock, please use real buttons, no marker bullshit)
If the laws don’t respect you, don’t respect them. Only way to fix anything.
I understand that argument, but this is clean cut “by law” of literally law breaking theft. Our social contract “allows” exploitation of the working class. :(
Both points are valid.
Its a shit deal, and they’re not even pretending to keep up their end. What kind of whipped dumbfucks must we be to ever keep ours?
I absolutely agree, I was just trying to get at the idea that this information can’t exactly be argued with if we’re going by theft in respect to the actual law.
Once you bring labor value theory into it you get a ton of resistance and closed minds. It’s better to keep that out of the equation for now if this information is to be used to convince people of an actual legal problem that isn’t being addressed where there isn’t any new law or legislation that needs to be created, just enforcement of existing laws.
You don’t even need labor theory of value though. Definitely a step up, less wrong and even flirts with justice sometimes, but you don’t need to say what’s right to prove some obvious bullshit is wrong.
This system doesn’t work for us, we didn’t consent, and instead of fixing any of it they just hand their thugs more fancy military surplus shit.
The fact you think laws will literally ever be on the side of justice tho, that’s just adorable. Laws are an excuse to divide the population, to create exceptions that can be safely targeted without resistance from the broader population. They’re literally just some divide and conquer shit. Don’t support their premise. If you want to do something based on their propaganda and try to make then good after, we can argue about it then if at least one of us and a sock still exists (if I’m the sock, please use real buttons, no marker bullshit)
If the laws don’t respect you, don’t respect them. Only way to fix anything.