I don’t see Old Reddit lasting long. They’ve cut beloved features before, and they’re still calling New Reddit a “beta feature”. After they’ve pumped enough resources into developing it, I’m sure they’ll move past the “test” phase and just cut Old Reddit out entirely. That’s probably going to be Lemmy’s next big user surge.
Does Reddit suppress mentioning Lemmy? I remember for a while this past June 2023 there were a lot of auto-deletions for mentioning or linking to Lemmy. I was never clear on who was deleting things and where. I guess linking to the r/Lemmy subreddit (or a fediverse sub) could work as long as the subreddit doesn’t get banned.
I honestly can’t see how anyone can stand the not-old reddit.
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I don’t really mind the “takes the whole screen width” - once you get wider than about 800 to 1000px it actually gets much harder to read a very long line of text than a smaller compact paragraph. Functional whitespace is a thing, although I do agree that they pushed it a bit too much. The padding and whitespace aren’t the biggest problem, IMHO but how it’s just very noticeably slower and clunkier to use.
a tiny minority of people will bother doing all that.
i think the majority of people who hate new reddit will come here.
there’s lots of people who’ve joined after the redesign and haven’t used old reddit, so it feels unfamiliar to them. some how mamy people were completely unaware of third party clients because they haven’t been using reddit before the official app has been released.
I prefer the full posts over the preview post.
Better to scroll during lunch break.Same. I want to see the full post/picture so I can decide that I’m even interested in the comments. I actually like infinite scrolling.
My Lemmy app (Sync) is also configured for full height and width cards.
Same here
The people that use old.reddit are a very small minority, and many are likely already here.
I use Connect for Lemmy on my phone I switched from RIF.
I still use old.reddit on my PC though. If old.reddit shuts down I guess I will switch to Lemmy on PC.
Using boost after RIF went over to that authoritarian hell hole tildes…only time I’m on Reddit is using old.reddit as well. New reddit is just cancer.
That small minority being a surprisingly large chunk of their volunteer moderators, which is why old reddit isn’t goin anywhere.
Would not be surprised if they are being dishonest about how many users are on old. I recall over a year or two ago reading a highly upvoted comment about it being less than 5% of all users, it might of been an Admin I don’t remember. New users I’ve shown old.reddit to are always so delighted. I’m sure it’s almost all OGs still on old though.
I modded some subreddits and before they fucked up traffic stats to not differentiate I can tell you that old (and new) was not putting up anywhere near the numbers of mobile. New had a lead over old but not a huge one.
EDIT: From a few years back - https://imgur.com/SJYWbQ5. I’m outing myself if someone does a bit of legwork, but IDGAF because I’m permabanned from reddit anyhow lol. Also, here’s one from 9 months ago, though I don’t remember the subreddit - https://imgur.com/FD0005K, and another from a year ago - https://imgur.com/9SBtazx
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Hi! That’s me! I’m already here!
Old.reddit + ublock + RES.
That’s my desktop setup for ages and ages.
Once old.reddit is gone I’ll not go back
Does Reddit suppress mentioning Lemmy
It does. Try commenting with https://phtn.app/ link in the comment, it will get removed instantly.
I nuked my reddit account with PDS and a lot of my edited comments were deleted because it mentioned Lemmy.
That’s some 3d chess right there.
We should try alternative spellings till we get a variant that goes through. like leetspeak or somethinf
Or just the instance. Would they really ban statrek.website
Is it “too late” to still do this somehow? Is there a good tutorial? Would love to get things cleaned up Re:that
No idea, you’ll just have to give Power Delete Suite a try.
Thanks, I’ll attempt tomorrow
HTTP 500 🤔
Me too. I dont even know what it is to check on downdetector
Alternative frontend for Lemmy.
Your instance has it at https://p.lemmy.world/
I like it, but I like using Jerboa more. I dont want to have to log in every time I check lemmy.
Strange, it works for me
Honestly, I don’t think users would migrate from Reddit to lemmy if they shut down old.reddit.
At this point, and after all that happened, users would switch to the new Reddit and continue using it.
Reddit has a massive amount of users and content there is generated at a huge amount. A lot of users would continue using Reddit even if they aren’t happy with the interface, just for the content really.
This can probably be modeled off the Digg to Reddit transition. Digg made a couple bad decisions in a row and Reddit exploded. Reddit is making a couple potentially bad decisions in a row, so give it a year or two and the fediverse will come around.
Yeah except Digg was a significant competitor to Reddit.
Lemmy is good but not great. Having a crap ton of instances doesn’t matter when people only use the top two, and then both go offline due to lack of redundancy.
If there was some good webclient that fetched from multiple instances and automatically handled a downed instance, it would probably give lemmy much more traction.
Just having multiple instance logins can be such a turnoff for people.
Still I hope it does grow.
If it’s the interface they miss, it can be duplicated on lemmy. Beehaw did a pretty good job https://old.beehaw.org/
.world and .ca have the “old” interface as well. ( https://old.lemmy.world/ and https://old.lemmy.ca )
There is also https://o.opnxng.com/ that can display any instance
I used to think I’d move if old.reddit died, but I migrated here much sooner when the whole API debacle happened, and I don’t know if many people who still care are still in there.
I don’t think that this will be the reason for another mass migration. Maybe some users will switch but it won’t be a significant number
Reddit is going for an IPO after which it will slowly enshittify to oblivion to acquiesce to board demands.
Yeah that’s my hope. I don’t think many people will switch because of the removal of old.reddit.com, but Reddit will probably become much shittier after going public. Hopefully that will cause more people to switch. It worked with Twitter, some people initially switched when Musk took over, but many other people switched later when the service became worse and worse.
I think a lot more people use old reddit than used 3rd party apps, but there would have been a lot of overlap
I think that it will, potentially worse than the APIcalypse, even if there are less desktop than mobile users. They’d be messing with whatever was left of a sane interface, that even mobile users who don’t want the app use. And the alternatives (incl. Lemmy) aren’t just a bunch of ghost towns any more, they’d be reaching actual communities instead of a “make your own community” place.
Agree
The migration (if there is one) will happen over a long period of time … Months or years.
Reddit initially had a huge growth period because there was no competition like it … there were other platforms but none like Reddit at the time.
Lemmy is on the same path as Reddit but with one difference, it has competition, not just from Reddit but a whole group of new platforms that are like it, or similar to it … so the community is fractured across Reddit, Lemmy and a bunch of other platforms.
The next two or three years will be an evolutionary period for all these platforms … this is a bit like the Cambrian explosion (a geologic period where a bunch of new species just appeared everywhere all at once) … all of them will fight one another and people will migrate one way or another, other factors will come in that we know about (finances, software, bandwidth, censorship, politics) as well as other factors we’ve yet to know about.
In a few years, some platforms will disappear and die out, others will linger and a few will dominate.
The evolutionary period may last a year or two or it may last longer but it won’t happen any time soon and we also don’t know what the outcome will be.
Going by past internet history it will be influenced by people’s choices but it will also be influenced by corporate interests once they figure out how to monetize something.
By having the same communities that reddit has. What if we all go through our subbed reddits and make them here?
Is there an official gaming community on Lemmy?
What if we all go through our subbed reddits and make them here?
That’s exactly what I did with a fairly niche community, and so far we’ve got 400+ subscribers in only four months. Pretty good for Lemmy, I think.
TBF, I think part of why it took off so well is because Lemmy’s ALL stream is relatively slow enough such that small niche communities have a much higher chance of being randomly seen. Compare that to Reddit, where they’d typically be buried.
So there’s a prime opportunity right now to start a community on Lemmy and have it take off relatively easily. That might not be so true in future.
When Reddit ipos and it tanks. They’ll push more bad decisions. That’ll be when people start to leave.
I have no experience to say whether it will succeed or tank. Why should it fail?
To be clear, I left Reddit and am not going back, but I’m curious what are some indicators the IPO won’t do well.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/01/fidelity-reddit-valuation/
This.
Another issue is if you look at companies that started to push what was perceived as woke agendas, they got thrashed in the market, Target, Inbev.
WHat will also hurt reddit the number of bots. Advertisers are taking a harder look at are their dollars effective on online platforms.
For most the brands I saw advertising on reddit, there is no way they were getting a return on their investment.
Once they go public, most of this information will come out.
When Reddit IPOs, hopefully mods will wonder why they’re doing free work just so spez can get rich of their backs.
I think the ipo won’t do well. I think it’s going to underperform drastically. I wouldn’t invest. Too much drama and controversy to draw my investment dollars.
I forget which bank but they already wrote off a large part of their investment.
When they removed old.compact shortly before the API debacle, which was really the only way to view a relatively functional site on mobile without a constant nag popup begging you to download the app, I knew the end was near. I had started looking for alternatives at that time. Chatter about alternatives really started to ramp up around then from what I could tell. I think everyone knew what was coming. I’m not sure there will be a surge, since most people that cared likely bailed long ago. Anyone still using old.reddit is viewing it from a desktop, and probably already has a Lemmy account.
The battle is already over. Reddit just needs to get to IPO so Spez can cash out with more than he got the first time. Then it’s someone else’s problem.
We could organise something to advertise Lemmy in Reddit, but I think that organic word-of-mouth is a better approach.
Instead we should make sure that the Lemmy experience is as good as possible. (Plus it benefits us “older” users regardless of any potential migration.)
by existing
Does Lemmy need to grab more users in the first place? I’d rather interact with people genuinely interested in such a model, not salty refugees seeing it as a compromise inferior to what they lost. Nah, I’m good as we are now.
Yes it does need more users. If you are not into Linux, Politics, Tech, and Cats, your feed looks much less populated. I’m not saying that Lemmy needs to have hundreds of millions of users, but it would be nice for most people if the userbase grew more.
Minor addition: Lemmy needs more active users. A lot of redditfugees seem to have created their own instances the moment they arrived here, only to expect other people to fill the communities with content and then abandon the site once they realised they would have to put actual work into their communities instead of just being squatters with mod rights. There are a lot of gaming-related communities here that I personally would be interested in joining if they weren’t abandoned and devoid of content (like Cult of the Lamb or Spiritfarer for example).
It would be really nice if active Lemmy users would “adopt” a few of those abandoned communities to add content and pull in more subscribers. “Only” having more people overall on the site doesn’t do much if this does not lead to more content / discussions / interaction.
Yeah thats what I meant when I said users. Would be nice to have more active users. When I made the paradoxgames community I think I was kinda lucky since at that time I could make a lot of posts about upcoming games. But smaller games/ communities dont have that luxury, so I guess they feel a bit more deserted.
Ok now I’m just starting to ramble. So yeah having more actives users is a must if people want Lemmy to feel nicer.
I’ve always been a lurker on my main Reddit account. I’m much more talkative here and even posted something sometimes, but I doubt I’ll become a regular poster and so I’m still hoping somebody will be as active here as most people are on Reddit
I would argue this is more damaging than most things for places like Lemmy. The wrong people pick up the communities and just abandon them or completely mismanage them. Can’t be helped though.
The wrong people pick up the communities and just abandon them or completely mismanage them. Can’t be helped though.
That’s already happening, but the ability to “adopt” communities helps to combat that. You can go to !support@lemmy.world and request to take over abandoned communities created by others, provided the original creator has been inactive and the community really IS abandoned / unmoderated. That way, someone who is actually interested in doing something for / with the community gets put in charge for a second chance (instead of the community name squatter being allowed to block the community name forever).
I adopted !totk@lemmy.world a couple of months ago for xample. It didn’t have a sidebar, rules, banner, icon, and the original creator had contributed zero content, so even tho that game is popular at the moment, there was barely anything interesting in there (plus some offtopic posts that were simply never removed). Now it has 2.6k subscribers and a steady stream of content, and offtopic stuff / insulting comments and the like actually get removed.
I also adopted !cultofthelamb@lemmy.world yesterday by the way, so the above comment that this community is “abandoned and devoid of content” is no longer true ;) maybe I should edit that … hm.
Long story short, I still think adopting abandoned communities is a good thing. provided the “adopter” is active enough themselves to make the community thrive.
Small self plug for morr generalist communities
But there’s also people saying there’s not enough content here. For more content there needs to be more people.
MLMYM(it is a lemmy client that looks like reddit) They do suppress lemmy from time to time. Do not mention it in a post(comment about it instead)
