• Coelacanth@feddit.nu
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    1 year ago

    The game will never be what people wanted (and what was - to some extent - promised). It’s too flawed and unfinished to be fixable through patches.

    I still thoroughly enjoyed it (I’m just about to finish my first playthrough at 100+ hours), but the game has to be approached with the understanding that it’s fundamentally flawed. I have no problems with that, Fallout: New Vegas is one of my favourite games so I’m comfortable with the situation and I’m used to fixing problems myself through mods (yes, even on a first playthrough).

    The best comparison I can think of is Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (though perhaps that game is now too old to be a relevant example). You can’t play it expecting a finished, polished product, but it’s still worthwhile and the good parts are really good.

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      1 year ago

      I just wanted to express I’m very thankful for this comment.

      It caused me to buy and play Bloodlines and it’s been fantastic.

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        1 year ago

        That makes me really happy to hear! It’s pretty much the definition of a “flawed gem” in gaming, it’s easy to see why it’s become a cult classic.

        Where did you buy it, GOG? You, uh… did install the unofficial patch, right?

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          1 year ago

          Yes, Gog, thankfully there’s a lot of hints on the internet recommending the full unofficial patch. And it’s great to see how there’s still updates coming in every few months.

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            1 year ago

            I actually have some opinions on the Plus Patch. I want to phrase this really carefully as Wesp5 is a hero for his work and dedication through the years, but he started taking a lot of liberties the last maybe 5-7 years, and the Plus Patch now contains stuff that is more mod than patch/restoration.

            It has gotten to the point where I wish there were 3 tiers of unofficial patch, not two. The vanilla patch is only bugfixes, and lots of the stuff added back in the Plus Patch was actually good but just missing due to poor code or not being completely finished but 90% there. I wish there was a patch with just the bugfixes and those most obvious content restorations.

            In the Plus Patch as it exists today, though, you have a lot of stuff that was cut for a reason shoehorned in, like unused OST tracks Wesp5 has inserted according to personal taste, or areas (and a quest) that were barely started where he himself filled in the blanks. And even complete mod content that - while they could be argued to be improvements - are alterations to the game according to Wesp5’s vision.

            You still need the basic patch to even run the game, of course, otherwise it’s literally unplayable. But these days I recommend the Plus Patch for a second playthrough. Playing as Malkavian is a good enough reason for a second playthrough, anyway.