Usually whan people make this argument with BG3 as evidence it comes with the implicit assumption that Larian is a AA developer, not a AAA one. I haven’t done enough research on what constitutes AAA vs AA and where Larian fits in that so I don’t know if that’s reasonable, but that’s the argument.
I’m not really sure on which planet they think Larian is a AA developer. BG3 was certainly north of $100 million to make, and had like 300 people working on it.
Ubisoft recently coined AAAA games in order to justify price rises on their latest mediocre drivel, and the only games I’ve seen that deserve the term AAAA are BG3 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
To me, that’s a product where absolutely no compromise has been made.
because Larion was 100% a AA developer before BG3 came out, and it’s hard to justify changing their place in the industry based solely on the success of their breakout game. It’s also important to remember that Wizards of the Coast were major bankrollers of the project, it wasn’t solely Larion. Larion is independent again, and I imagine their next project will be closer to the quality of Divinity 2 (still an incredible game btw) than BG3.
Hmmm, I’m a bit out of touch with politics, but I think FdI are much more vocal against migrants (in general, regardless of religion) and queers, I’d say Muslims are among their “least attacked” minorities. But I get the point
The anti-Muslim rhetoric comes out more in foreign policy discussions, and the degree to which more liberal-leaning politicians and talking heads let it slide unchallenged makes people not pay as much attention.
Absolutely not. I know plenty of so-called “AAA” studios that would murder for whatever deal with Raphael Larian had with Hasbro to fund a 200 million dollar early access six-year-long development cycle.
Larian is “independent”, sure, in that they’re a private company. They are AAA+, though, both in size and, depending on their licensing deal, on available resources as well. At least since halfway through the BG3 EA process.
Oh well they used to be thought of as AA, it at least III (lol these shorthands, man…).
They don’t really have a AAA aesthetic imho, as much as such a statement makes sense. Do you know what I mean? Like their game feels ambitious, yes, but it hasn’t been polished into a featureless sphere.
Yeah, but that’s my problem with the entire conversation in the first place. If you define “AAA” fully tautologically as “soulless game that feels corporate and is kinda shitty” then sure, AAA has a major issue, in that it seems to be consistently soulless and kinda shitty.
But if the definition is somewhat reasonable, either as a major production in terms of budget and scope, or even as a production from a major studio then all of a sudden AAA games are way more diverse and way more interesting than these types of posts give them credit for.
The meme is saying that Western AAA game makers are too lazy to make good games and are upset at other, NON-Western game devs for producing good games and making themselves (the westerners) look bad.
Larian isn’t in the group of complainers. The meme isn’t putting them in any category.
So Belgium isn’t a western Nation? Or who does Anon think made Baldur Gate 3?
Usually whan people make this argument with BG3 as evidence it comes with the implicit assumption that Larian is a AA developer, not a AAA one. I haven’t done enough research on what constitutes AAA vs AA and where Larian fits in that so I don’t know if that’s reasonable, but that’s the argument.
I’m not really sure on which planet they think Larian is a AA developer. BG3 was certainly north of $100 million to make, and had like 300 people working on it.
Ubisoft recently coined AAAA games in order to justify price rises on their latest mediocre drivel, and the only games I’ve seen that deserve the term AAAA are BG3 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
To me, that’s a product where absolutely no compromise has been made.
because Larion was 100% a AA developer before BG3 came out, and it’s hard to justify changing their place in the industry based solely on the success of their breakout game. It’s also important to remember that Wizards of the Coast were major bankrollers of the project, it wasn’t solely Larion. Larion is independent again, and I imagine their next project will be closer to the quality of Divinity 2 (still an incredible game btw) than BG3.
They probably bought into the propaganda that all of Europe is overrun by Muslims.
Europe is what? How does one even come up with that? Who says it?
Racists.
Meanwhile, stats show a total of 6% Muslims in Europe (mainly because of Turkey), and 3.2% in the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Europe#Abrahamic_religions
Fear mongering from the RN/AfD/PVV/PP/FdI/PiS/Fidesz and other Nazis like them
Hmmm, I’m a bit out of touch with politics, but I think FdI are much more vocal against migrants (in general, regardless of religion) and queers, I’d say Muslims are among their “least attacked” minorities. But I get the point
The anti-Muslim rhetoric comes out more in foreign policy discussions, and the degree to which more liberal-leaning politicians and talking heads let it slide unchallenged makes people not pay as much attention.
I guess that’s not totally wrong but I think being Muslim is definitely one of the things that is scary about the migrants
I thought that was only France? Or have they expanded their intolerance now?
Aren’t the “Western AAA developers” the ones complaining? Not the ones that made the mentioned games?
Then my question becomes what Larian Studios is, if not a AAA game dev.
An indie studio that had luck and got big. Let’s hope they stay independent and can keep doing what they want.
AA in the parlance
Absolutely not. I know plenty of so-called “AAA” studios that would murder for whatever deal with Raphael Larian had with Hasbro to fund a 200 million dollar early access six-year-long development cycle.
Larian is “independent”, sure, in that they’re a private company. They are AAA+, though, both in size and, depending on their licensing deal, on available resources as well. At least since halfway through the BG3 EA process.
Oh well they used to be thought of as AA, it at least III (lol these shorthands, man…).
They don’t really have a AAA aesthetic imho, as much as such a statement makes sense. Do you know what I mean? Like their game feels ambitious, yes, but it hasn’t been polished into a featureless sphere.
Yeah, but that’s my problem with the entire conversation in the first place. If you define “AAA” fully tautologically as “soulless game that feels corporate and is kinda shitty” then sure, AAA has a major issue, in that it seems to be consistently soulless and kinda shitty.
But if the definition is somewhat reasonable, either as a major production in terms of budget and scope, or even as a production from a major studio then all of a sudden AAA games are way more diverse and way more interesting than these types of posts give them credit for.
Not a Western AAA studio, lol.
The meme is saying that Western AAA game makers are too lazy to make good games and are upset at other, NON-Western game devs for producing good games and making themselves (the westerners) look bad.
Larian isn’t in the group of complainers. The meme isn’t putting them in any category.