And yet many, and i mean many, on hexbear and ml keep spouting shit about no one being killed and you’re a western capitalist pig for even suggesting they were.
The statement made over on Hexbear and others is that the “Tian’anmen Square Massacre,” the commonly reported idea that the PLA swept into Tian’anmen Square and subsequently massacred “10,000” people as reported by Western outlets like BBC, is a fabrication designed as atrocity propaganda that utterly distorts the real character of the tragedy of June 4th, 1989 to serve Western interests. The statement is not that there were not hundreds of killings that day, but that the scope and character reported commonly by Western Outlets has no real evidence supporting it. For a more in-depth look at what Marxists commonly understand the events of June 4th, consider reading Another View of Tiananmen.
I’m sorry but no, that is not at all what hexbear people have tried to tell me. They have repeatedly said that no one died in the event at all, with no distinction made about it happening on the square or not. I’m glad that doesn’t seem to be what you think, but i also don’t appreciate being told what I’ve experienced. This has happened several times and not once have they expressed the nuance you have here.
No, because I’m not. This was what i experienced when i first came to lemmy a bit over a year ago (i think? It was when reddit made their api paid). Things may have changed since, i wouldn’t know since i blocked the instance after i was sure of what was going on after like a month.
I’d like to see the specific examples, because I have only seen what I explained to you, and I have a Hexbear account. I even linked the ProleWiki page, which is maintained by many Lemmygrad members and can in some fashion be seen as the general “Lemmygrad line.”
This was like a year ago and i have had the instance blocked since, so that would be difficult. Just know that there are reasons most of lemmy hates hexbear, this not least of them. Anyways, i think we’re done here, have a nice day.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but if you don’t prove it, I am not going to believe it exists. You aren’t the first to make a claim about Hexbear that is mysteriously unable or unwilling to back it up, and you’re not going to be the last I imagine. The real reason the liberal side of Lemmy hates Hexbear is because Hexbear has a high concentration of Marxists.
I don’t know what you mean by “authoritarians are entitled to their billions,” and to frame “the June 4th 1989 killing happened off the square, not on it” as “the killing never happened” is pretty dishonest. The Prolewiki page pretty clearly states that hundreds of protestors and PLA soldiers were killed that day.
And yet many, and i mean many, on hexbear and ml keep spouting shit about no one being killed and you’re a western capitalist pig for even suggesting they were.
No, they don’t. They say that no one died on the square, which evidence seems to support. They don’t say nobody died, period.
Like there are pictures of mangled bodies and bikes but because they are not ON the square, the statement is false?
Did… did I understand this correctly?
The statement made over on Hexbear and others is that the “Tian’anmen Square Massacre,” the commonly reported idea that the PLA swept into Tian’anmen Square and subsequently massacred “10,000” people as reported by Western outlets like BBC, is a fabrication designed as atrocity propaganda that utterly distorts the real character of the tragedy of June 4th, 1989 to serve Western interests. The statement is not that there were not hundreds of killings that day, but that the scope and character reported commonly by Western Outlets has no real evidence supporting it. For a more in-depth look at what Marxists commonly understand the events of June 4th, consider reading Another View of Tiananmen.
I’m sorry but no, that is not at all what hexbear people have tried to tell me. They have repeatedly said that no one died in the event at all, with no distinction made about it happening on the square or not. I’m glad that doesn’t seem to be what you think, but i also don’t appreciate being told what I’ve experienced. This has happened several times and not once have they expressed the nuance you have here.
Does it not bother you that you’re having to resort to outright lying?
No, because I’m not. This was what i experienced when i first came to lemmy a bit over a year ago (i think? It was when reddit made their api paid). Things may have changed since, i wouldn’t know since i blocked the instance after i was sure of what was going on after like a month.
I’d like to see the specific examples, because I have only seen what I explained to you, and I have a Hexbear account. I even linked the ProleWiki page, which is maintained by many Lemmygrad members and can in some fashion be seen as the general “Lemmygrad line.”
This was like a year ago and i have had the instance blocked since, so that would be difficult. Just know that there are reasons most of lemmy hates hexbear, this not least of them. Anyways, i think we’re done here, have a nice day.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but if you don’t prove it, I am not going to believe it exists. You aren’t the first to make a claim about Hexbear that is mysteriously unable or unwilling to back it up, and you’re not going to be the last I imagine. The real reason the liberal side of Lemmy hates Hexbear is because Hexbear has a high concentration of Marxists.