Yeah interesting - I don’t know how many say flatpaks will work on arm. I guess you’re basically able to run most of what a raspberry pi can or whatever is in debian’s arm repos though.

On lineage you can use auroura store too for a less googley halfway house.

The article mentions waydroid - but it doesnt go into that much detail on it. I find waydroid to be very good on a decent linux pc - but does it work well enough on ubuntu touch. I’d not do anything heavy though like mobile games on waydroid - that’d seem wierd.

Is there any benefit/cost though to effectively running your apps via a lineage v.m?

I’d think if there is it might come down to some wierd security thing but probably at cost of startup time or performance, or maybe even power consumption.

Make some other stupid meme or joke that windows does understand then. Maybe it turns our death is secretly using adobe creative cloud on a windows to design the gravestones.

I m not going on /c/windowsmemes to make boring serious complaints about why I don’t understand regedit.

You’ve got to at least to be funny about it on a meme, otherwise it’s just depressing. Theres enough deprssing shit on the serious linux forums.

Or maybe there should be a new meme community linuxwindowstrollbait that is for snarky comments.

Or maybe I just stop moaning and unsubscribe fron this one.

Linuxmemes should instigate a new rule.

Replies should not be serious, boring and/or don’t to know seem to know what a stupid memepost is for.

Windows users should be rebutting this with equally stupid memes about xorg.conf or cups or maybe another panel where death is unable to kill windows because it lost the archlinux-keyring to unlock the scythe.

They need a professor to tell them what Liz Lemon did in one lunchtime https://youtu.be/vyZkHjgzGRM?t=83

You’re talking about free and open competition in a perfect competition marketplace. This is an ideal (similarly far-fetched as communism/socialism*) where there are low barriers to entry, and consumers have good information to make well informed choices. In this world competition bid’s down excess profits in the long run - essentially to consumers benefit. not the benefit of producers. wages are low but it doesnt so much matter becauases competition keeps prices low.

Capitalism wants to increase the return to capital , so it works against competition to create market power (by many means including legal system power and regulatory capture as well tacit or explicit corruption) both over consumers and over their own supply chain (e.g. employees). It inherits its legacy from rentierism and landowners who also like to monopolize land, ration it and have tenants bid up rents.

‘objective sources’, on economics? Good luck. economists are so bi-assed that most of them can spew shit out of two holes simultaneously.

• both communism and perfect competition probably work fine in a small closed community, where everyone pretty much has repeated interactions with everyone - visibility - and there will be other examples where they each work fine-ish, but on a large enough scale, anomynity and human nature come into play. The reality is human trust is excellent, but some people will abuse it when they think they’ll get away with it and that destroys it.

I’d like a comparison to lineage OS. There seems to be a very short supported device list for ubuntu, but maybe thats how they keep the install process simplified. Cyanogen always relied a lot on xda-developers community i think - so many unofficial devices supported just by enthusiasts willing to risk bricking devices.

I recently upgraded to a (used) sony XA2. it was a right pain to install lineage os - way harder than previous samsung S3/4/5 type phones. It was mostly just trying every goddamn usb port on every pc in my house until finally one with which ADB would actually flash the bios.

I’ve never bothered to researach exactly what are the security issues with lineage OS , it’s something where a decent bit of journalism might help. I’m not very into many apps though so i suspect that lowers the risk to me.

I’m happy with lineage os too.

I’d like a comparison to lineage OS. There seems to be a very short supported device list for ubuntu, but maybe thats how they keep the install process simplified.

I recently upgraded to a (used) sony XA2. it was a right pain to install lineage os - way harder than previous samsung s3/4/5 type phones. It was mostly just trung every usb port on every pc in my house until ADB would actually flash the bios.

I’ve never bothered to researach exactly what are the security issues with lineage OS , it’s something where a decent bit of journalism might help. I’m not very into many apps though so i suspect that lowers the risk.

It makes scrumptious food.

I think in the according to The Stranglers it’s heroin.

I think their research is empirically falsified already. If chimp = monkey, then “simian” is reasonable generalisation of “monkey” - also that reflects a lot of real english speakers usage of the words.

A less than infinite number of simians have already done it once.

Not to mention that I think they’re assuming no evolution. Fucking chriatian fundamentalists.

Surely they have to use stuff like mathcad or equivalent to be an engineer? I’ve never really used it but it can’t be that far off just doing the calculations in python. I think there’s “sagemath” too availabe for linux - i’m sure that’s not as good as mathcad - but aimed at the same thing i think - and i’m sure it will interoperate with python libraries and R and stuff like that.

I know there are people who claim to be “good at excel” well i only used it for about 15-20 years but then i guess never got “good” at it - i just learned moreabout how bad it is. . Those that were genuinely good at it , as far as I think, did a lot of extra work to mitigate the limitations or create crutches for it. I just got pissed off by it, so i was quite desperate to stop using it as much as possible - it’s just only recently i’ve been allowed to use what i think are more appropriate tools- and i;m grateful for this small, but likely closing “window” f opportunity.

If they’re happy with it though, who am I to judge. But if I was doing gemoetry and engineering calculations and ultimately cad, I know i’d not want excel anywhere near my data or my calculation methods.

I wonder if age is really their issue, or if they just DGAF - again if that’s the case, good for them.

I on the other hand will probably be walking out when they force us on windows 11 however good or bad it is. /management has already fucked us with sharepoint and dynamics - so maybe i’m just as bad as them when it comes to new fangled shit like: clouds, data-lakes, fabrics and other MS shite. I just want our data on a proper fucking filesystem, that we own. And our data somewhere I can SQL it.

Change first name to “Thundercats”

Unexpected but entirely welcome.

People do forget this all too often.

Cheaper stuff, use more , value less.

Best replacement for excel is: anything that doesn’t rape your data whilst pouring sugar in you gas tank. /s

TLDR - R, Python, mariaDB, for real data analysis stuff + minor role for whatever spreadsheet package.

For hobbies / analysis / data manipulation , storage , graphs and general stats fuckery here’s my advice; as someone who does this stuff - “badly I might add” - for a shitty public sector organisation that just can’t decide whether to bend over M$ barrel or Oracle’s barrel:

• use R (via R-studio if you need an “environment”) for more statsy stuff and easier graphs.

• Python for more general mathsy / programmy / web scrapy stuff - can do decent graphs with libraries like plotly and matplotlib stuff like that, scipy, numpy, and pandas are the other basic libraries for analysis and maths and large datasets. peopl like using ‘jupyter notebooks’ - I don’t get it personally - but 50 Phil Ochs fans cant be that wrong.

• Set up a mariadb or something if you need databasey stuff, I doubt you need to look at more hardcore stuff like postgresql for “hobbying” ; my personal (1 user) databases were built several years ago and mariadb is just fine for that. but some of the high vol transactional DB at work do use postgresql.

These are all good to learn in my experience, even if you think they’re harder than excel; ( are they tho’? array formlae!?). They’re sort of interoperable - subject to learning. They - naturally - have their open-source annoyances.: a million ways to do everything, and versioning issues. (Excel still has fucking vlookup() tho’ - talk abut legacy baggage - but no it’s not as bad as the open souce maelstroms).

You can still ouput data into a spreadsheet for viewing formatting and messing with stuff - but there are other ways.

Footnote: Yes I do still use excel, but normally mostly for final formatted report for customer who wants it. Having R/python directly write data into excel is so much better than letting excel open anything. Excel just can’t let an innocent SNOMED code go unmolested; you have to be on high alert if you let excel actually do anything.

Also spreadsheet for messy data cleansing - for looking at mess, to help refine the R/python cleansing script. I’d happily use libre/ods for any of these but I don’t fancy putting the request in to IT and . . . having to speak to IT about it.

Having to listen to that Queen song, forever.

“The Honking”

That might make it less dystopia-ish. Perhaps they can rent a mod-bot from amazon.

Seriously though the first rule does suggets bots are not allowed.

He’s not wrong. There is a lot more money in selling hype and style, than functionality and substance. Pro’s need pay.

I’m going to interpret that last “network” as that extra f-ing 50 ohm bnc terminator that you’re pretty sure you don’t need, until you’re about to learn something about coax impedence matching.

You’d need geniune “marginal” income data not wealth to calculate that accurately. Wealth is an illusory “value” it is inflated by asset pices that mean you can only sell it slowly without potentially reducing the price. This is far less true of widely accepted ( ‘liquid’) assets like cash.

Their marginal value of +/-1 minute worked is probably actually very low, since most their income is “unearned”. but ignore that for the sake of stupid calculation. assume they sacrifice an average amount to pick up this cash.

You can start with say roughly +$270bn over 12 years being a bit less than $50k per minute. That +270 can cover inflation adjusting the 2012 start point to crrent prices, it’s in the rounding.

But even assuming they converted it all to liquid assets art once , and tank the asset price so that, instead of £50k/min the break-even might be $5k/min. very roughly i’m looking at $100 per second. That’s your break even you have to get close to.

After that it’s a matter of practicality, face value per bill, ordering/stacking, spread/density, and wind. Assume no tools, vacuums, or scoops, just what can be gathered by one greedy c*nt by hand.

If it’s , say, a single $100 bill already at their feet, then it is probably worth it to them (or maybe handful of $100s if you prefer to think wealth = cash).

A few $20s? probably; if they could gather 5x$20s per second and reach the break even rate - seems doable if the density is there. $10s or lower? I doubt it - unless the cash was neatly stacked or bundled.

But, suppose they were put on to an effectively infinite but random mess of $1 bills; I dont think it’s worth it to them. I don’t think they could physically gather it fast enough. Plus at scale, they’d have overhead costs to store, transport, bundle , count it and then wait in line at the bank and other such indignities.

If it was more like this: https://youtu.be/YEbs0RUyksI?t=363 then no chance.