Ugh that sucks. That really shouldn’t happen

Frustratingly, the two are good at different things.

Apple Maps is mostly better at announcing driving routes. Routing quality is similar - they provide different, but similar-quality routes. Public transport routes are superior because - shockingly - they seem to have more accurate data than Google Maps. Google Maps is still superior in the specific location of a business within a narrow area. Apple Maps has more errors where the marker is on the building, but Google Maps has it at the entrance.

At the same time, local search is terrible. Their partners’ and their proprietary data is inadequate and it seems businesses don’t know they could/should care and don’t maintain listings. I’ve submitted several changes in my local area and while they are usually accepted, some of them ended up reverted a while later. They seem to be working on this and hopefully they’ll eventually catch up - but I’m not sure how, if businesses don’t maintain their listings!

The negativity was pretty asinine though. Nothing he said, I think, was wrong. I remember Mastodon people (rightfully) reacting quite annoyed at similar reports on how usage had peaked and was dropping again, just because not all the new users stuck around.

I’m not disagreeing with you. You’re saying that the fediverse produces badly designed and branded services that mirror existing apps with massive user bases, that won’t be great until a lot of users migrate over. None of that is wrong! It’s why Lemmy is a mess that constantly breaks, and Reddit is still way more useful, even if most people here hate it.

It’s just that most Lemmy users care enough about decentralisation to ignore those product downsides, in the hope that they it can be overcome over time. With a messaging product, that’s even easier. You can just install it and wait until other users join - network effects are ’much more limited than with eg Lemmy.

Discord is a centralised, proprietary service, sup would be a fediverse app. Discord is better than Sup just like Reddit is better than Lemmy.

Sadly it doesn’t look so much like an iOS app, more like a bad Instagram clone 😕