They want their cut. Nobody with less than them can be given anything without them getting their cut. They had to work for it so why shouldn’t everyone else!!111

Seems to be the mentality anyway. “igmfy” It’s why people are anti-immigration (we’re all immigrants if you go back far enough.) It’s why they don’t want social service programs (taxing ME is theft, tax those others!), they sure as shit don’t want free education (hurr durr I paid for mine / I didn’t need it so why should I pay for theirs!!1111oneone)

It blows my mind that so many don’t want any change to the status quo because things were shit for them. It’s like at some point the resentment for being handed a shit deal is replaced by resentment for others who haven’t made it yet.

Yes, but usually they do something that provides value. A mechanic charges you more than their costs, but they are also charging for their expertise and skill.

Not all jobs are that clear cut though. Most white collar jobs are bullshit (sauce: been working in corporate environments for close to 15 years.)

Car Salesmen are useless for me. They’re still legally required. They get paid WAY too much to swindle grandparents out of a few thousand dollars per car.

Real Estate Agents generally do not produce any real value but are again required. 4-5% commissions for selling a home which today in the boston area is a median of over 700k. Don’t try and tell me that $35k of effort goes into creating a listing and doing a showing, and helping someone throw in a bid. It should be a couple thousand at most. Sales here are almost always a weekend of two open houses then offers due on tuesday… and then a P&S is signed on Friday.

If car salesmen and real estate agents are so valuable, then i’m sure a middleman finding furniture and reposting it on other sites that are more visited than craigslist free section and taking a commission is hardly any more dubious. After all the agents and salesmen in these cases do not create any value - they didn’t build the car or ship it over or really do anything except maybe detail it before delivery, even the paperwork is done by others! Same deal with the agents… they arent the lawyer, mortgage broker, house inspector etc which you still pay yourself out of pocket as closing costs as a buyer.

Anyway, yeah I totally agree about people needing handouts to get on their feet. I’m very much for housing the homeless and giving basic necessities to all (basic shelter, food, water, basic clothes, internet, electricity, smart phone.) We just aren’t that kind of nation though. We’d rather prop up insurance companies and pharma profits than lift a finger for the homeless. “IGMFY” is the way the US works, mostly.

Not exactly what I’d call hard work, but shitty assholery

Giving someone shit because they can sell things that others give away for free is… interesting.

There isn’t a business on the planet that doesn’t make more money than they pay for what they do. The guy literally took what others were throwing away and effectively recycled their trash and made a profit on it. When you are starting with literally nothing you need to find money somehow.

I bought a dresser from a guy with a storage unit full of furniture he buys from estate sales. I don’t have time to go to estate sales. I got a pretty awesome deal on the piece I got. Even if the got it for free or by running a 800 got junk type deal I would not hate. Better than another thing in the landfill!

The ads are coming! the ads are coming! -Modern Paul Revere

Opinion time:

Human population will grow to consume all there is, always.

We as a species will ever escape scarcity.

Jesus christ these headlines mislead everything.

They were using machine learning to try and figure out what people were buying. Machine learning has lots of errors until you train it. The “hundreds of workers” were training it by telling it what each thing was. E.g. it was creating training data for it to learn from.

The goal was to train ML enough so that humans were rarely necessary, obviously.

Innovation is part of the executive buzzword bingo board for all announcements.

It doesn’t actually mean anything to these people. The only thing that has weight is what will enrich the wealth of the ownership class (shareholders.)

I mean sure I guess… but brave as a browser is atrocious. I don’t trust their bullshit at all.

After all who doesn’t want a crypto wallet in their browser? that’s the safest place for it right?

Don’t forget heating and cooling too. There’s a ton of things that are necessary to operate while the vehicle is in motion and should never be delegated to a touchscreen.

I’m fine with touchscreens for in car entertainment for the back seats and maybe a passenger one with the appropriate shutter technology to block the driver’s view. None of those things are important for vehicle safety… but if there is a speaker that the passengers can control there needs to be a mute button for the driver to turn that shit off too :)

You think no one will pick up the old code and work on it?

You think the original devs won’t consider going back at it through a means that is anonymous and minimizes their risk?

I’ve never ever seen a platform with an emulator lose the emulator without someone eventually filling the void. The interest is there. More people than ever can code.

This asshole is just exercising his options to take money from the same moderators that were up in arms over his changes last year. Make no mistake, this is Spez’s revenge.

I really hope this whole thing backfires on reddit, but I think the reality is that it will further enshittify until it’s profitable, and it’s already so big it’s unlikely to fail.

Lemmy just isn’t a replacement and I think the nature of lemmy will stop it from ever being one unless someone throws godlike resources at one giant instance that federates with basically nobody.

ML can be applied in a great number of ways. One such way could be content moderation, especially detecting people who use alternate accounts to reply to their own content or manipulate votes etc.

By including IP addresses with the comments they could correlate who said what where and better learn how to detect similar posting styles despite deliberate attempts to appear to be someone else.

It’s a legitimate use case. Not sure about the legality… but I doubt google or reddit would ever acknowledge what data is included unless they believed liability was minimal. So far they haven’t acknowledged anything beyond the deal existing afaik.

Gut feel based on common tech platform procedures, right? (As opposed to a sourceable certainty.)

It would be PR suicide to disclose exactly what data is shared. Cambridge Analytica is a prime example of a PR nightmare with similar data.

I don’t even need to look at reddit’s terms and conditions to know that there is practically nothing stopping them from handing this kind of data over legally for anybody who hasn’t submitted GDPR deletion requests. I never trust compliance of laws that cannot be verified independently either because i’ve seen all kinds of shady shit in my career.

Since an IP address alone is not considered PII, can you prove that they did not provide IP addresses for each post?

Do you think it’s more or less likely that ip addresses, account names, private messages and deleted messages and posts would be included?

Remember that they paid 60 million dollars for this information and web scrapers have been capable of capturing subreddit post data for over a decade as is at a $0 price tag from reddit.

Where does it say they have access to PII?

So technically they haven’t sold any PII if all they do is provide IP addresses. Legally an IP address is not PII. Google knows all our IP addresses if we have an account with them or interact with them in certain ways. Sure, some people aren’t trackable but i’m just going to call it out that for all intents and purposes basically everyone is tracked by google.

Only the most security paranoid individuals would be anonymous.

Hey guys, let’s be clear.

Google now has a full complete set of logs including user IPs (correlate with gmail accounts), PRIVATE MESSAGES, and also reddit posts.

They pinky promise they will only train AI on the data.

I can pretty much guarantee someone can subpoena google for your information communicated on reddit, since they now have this PII (username(s)/ip/gmail account(s)) combo. Hope you didn’t post anything that would make the RIAA upset! And let’s be clear… your deleted or changed data is never actually deleted or changed… it’s in an audit log chain somewhere so there’s no way to stop it.

“GDPR WILL SAVE ME!” - gdpr started in 2016. Can you ever be truly sure they followed your deletion requests?

I can see it now, that ai model is going to be really, really fucking angry. lol

YAY FREE ADVERTISEMENT LETS GO LOSERBENCHMARK!!!11111

In all seriousness, these guys are ONLY the top google result because of all the “controversy.” They do it for a reason. Every time i’ve seen a thread talking about them i’ve literally downvoted it because the only way to stop the cycle is to just let them die a slow death which as far as I can tell is never going to happen. Their business model is better than anybody talking about them, posting about them, or generating ad revenue from making articles about them. We’re the clowns.

Yeah, sure, ok. We pinky promise not to use AI to generate leads that are then printed out on paper and put in front of a doctor’s assistant’s autopen for signatures denying insurance or coverage.

There is absolutely ZERO way to practically enforce this. An AI team can act like a black box, ingesting data and outputting hard copies that cannot be traced back to them. There is no way this will not happen.

“We’ll audit the company!” -> they’ll send the data to an offshore shell company that doesn’t follow the law, then the recommendations will be sent back.

Prove that legislation can stop this, just try.