Negative, Ghost Rider. But there are plenty of public ones. Try AdminForge.

True but also doesn’t contradict anything I said.

My friends could not care less. I even offered to let them use it for free. They just mock me about it.

It was only a couple years ago that I would mock iPhone users for buying overpriced phones but they’re 1:1 on pricing now, and the iPhone is a wayyyy better value…

I hope this Pixel flops and they get some sense knocked into them…

That’s great but it takes more than 1, or even 1M people. It has to be enough people that anti-consumer shitfuckery is no longer profitable.

Those are both the same, and would fall under #2.

2 ways to go back:

1. Corporations become less greedy.

2. Consumers and businesses stop tolerating abuse and consider other options that will temporarily inconvenience them.

Neither one seems likely. If it were we simply wouldn’t be here in the first place.

But they’re not suggesting they be punished at all…

So all the people who actually make the decisions walk away scot-free?

Who would you jail? How would you decide whos responsible? You can’t jail the entire company.

But with a sufficient size fine you can make everyone at the company regret that decision, directly or indirectly.

with 99.9% accuracy that a fascist is elected if people vote for an alternate party

Just straight up blatant lies here.

There are a million other ways to protest/lobby

I can’t think of a more powerful protest.

like AOC/Bernie.

I would vote for either in a heartbeat but I can’t because they won’t be on the ballot. They will step down and insist you vote for Kamala instead. And even if they were you would insist that I not vote for them anyway because it’s still “throwing away” my vote.

When either party puts forward a candidate without immediately-disqualifying horrendous traits, I will vote for them. But that absolutely never happens. It is almost always the worst-possible candidate, without even considering their political positions. They all accept massive donations from mega-PACs and a deplorable history of selfishness and lies.

Holy shit, you are, okay. A protest vote, as the name suggests, protests the current system by showing that we would rather take time out of our day to show up to the polls and “throw away” our votes than to participate and be complicit in the current, forced 2-party system, where they both put forward absolute fucking rat-shit candidates, year after year after year.

Like, should I show my support for the fucking pathologically-lying felonious authoritarian sex abuser with the vocabulary of a 3rd-grader? Or the former DA who did what DAs do in the early '00s, and obscured exculpatory evidence so she could send people to live out the rest of their lives in a fucking prison in order to further her career (AKA a fucking psychopath), and whose main qualification is being a half-black female?

Now you may not like that, especially if you oppose voter reform, but don’t be disingenuous by pretending to not understand how it works.

Are you asking me how protests work? Is that really something that requires explanation?

You know that’s not how elections work

WTF are you talking about? That’s exactly how they work, and its what the person I replied to suggested I do about it.

here are some lists of third-party candidates in the US:

This is just a list of people I’ve been repeatedly told in this thread that I should not vote for…?

It’s a good thing I vote responsibly then. An irresponsible vote would be one that perpetuates the current, broken system.

and have edge cases where someone unpopular gets elected

As opposed to the current system, where someone unpopular always gets elected?

Making major changes to a system that has worked for 248 years

It hasn’t worked. It’s deeply flawed and we currently use the worst-possible process, rooted in ancient history.

And I will repeat the same thing I told the other person who said this. Who should I vote for? What politicians are supporting and advocating for reforming US elections? The answer is none of them, because they’d be lambasted and shunned for trying to upend the status quo.

I’m not gonna answer that question. I don’t have the perfect answer ready for you.

That’s okay, I don’t expect a “perfect” answer, but what you’re revealing about yourself by not putting forward an answer is that you don’t care about our wants, you’re just mad that we’re not doing what you want.

People tell me all the time voting is how to get what you want, so that’s what I’ve done and what I’ll continue to do.

the Spoiler Effect

Yes, I’m very familiar. Once again, I think this is just manipulating people into your desired outcome. I’m very happy to “spoil” my vote by advocating for someone I actually support, rather than throwing it away on someone I don’t. The fault lies with the system, not with me.

Name anyone anywhere

Like who?