Ideally “users” wouldn’t only be IT guys but also an average person. Some of my friends use Matrix to message me. They certainly are no developers or have technical IT knowledge. They certainly don’t know how to set up a bot. With discord you just add a bot to your server (equivalent to a Matrix Space) and there you go. That’s user friendly. Matrix bots work yes. But they are by far not user friendly.

But IRC doesn’t really support E2EE in 1:1 chats right? Because that’s something very important for me. I don’t want to use an app only for public channels I ideally would like to use it for everything. Including messaging the people I know.

Is there a current version of it? Can’t find a version that I can install. Play Store says Lawnchair 2 has been developed for an older version of Android and thus can’t be installed and besides that the latest release I can find on GitHub is 6 years old.

I love Immich and Sharkey but both use Discord. Sharkey even used Matrix in the beginning but eventually switched to Discord. I think their reasoning was that they were often attacked by trolls etc. and that Matrix didn’t had good options for moderation etc.

And while I love Matrix I fully agree. Yes there are moderation bots like Draupnir and they’re good but you will need to self host them and register a user for them and and and. It’s not as easy as with Discord or even Telegram bots. Also there are many Discord bots providing very fun elements like levels, reputations, roles etc. which simply do not exist or aren’t even possible in Matrix as it currently is.

On top of that we have the decentralization “problem” for end users who aren’t technical. They simply don’t care much about privacy and they don’t care if Discord stores every single message and picture in clear text forever on their servers. It’s easier to create a Discord account on a centralized platform than understanding Matrix understanding which server to choose, understanding which client to choose and understanding how encryption, key management etc. works. Yes decentralization is important and great but for the average user it’s still something that they do not really know which “overcomplicates” it for them.

And another point is that Matrix spaces are simply not the same as Discord servers. Channels are not as easy to manage because they are rooms on their own in Matrix and a space is not a server but rather a way to organize multiple rooms. Not every client supports spaces yet. Clients implement them differently. Then there’s Element and Element X on phones confusing people new to Matrix etc. In Discord several channels can be grouped in another category. In Matrix you’d use Subspaces for that giving you the same issue as with normal spaces.

And most clients don’t implement simple things on mobile like…sending multiple images at once. From the perspective of an end user that fact annoys the heck out of anyone wanting to send several pictures.

So yeah I think it’s a mixture out of those things.

Matrix especially needs better bot support with bots that could be used by everyone as it is with Discord instead of being only usable by server admins or the bots creators as it is with many Matrix bots. And it does need a better solution for spaces with rooms or another thing in the specs that replicates how Discord servers work so that it’s a “space” with actual “subchannels” without every space technically being it’s own room dangling around in limbo and just being “sorted” into the space.

And it needs better moderation tools.

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With DS-Lite you don’t have a public IPv4. Not a static one but also not a dynamic one. The ISP just gives you a public IPv6. You share your IPv4 address with other users. This is done to use less IPv4s. But not having a dynamic IPv4 causes you to be unable to use DynDNS etc. It’s simply not possible.

You could publish your stuff via IPv6 only but good luck accessing it from a network without IPv6.

You could also spin up tunnels with SSH actually between a public server and the private one (yes SSH can do stuff like that) but that’s very hard to manage with many services so you’re better of building a setup like mine.

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/nat/topics/topic-map/security-ipv6-dual-stack-lite.html

Don’t use a free one. Use ProtonVPN or Mullvad VPN. In general even for normal browsing. Free VPNs are trash.

I had the same issue. Wrote another comment here explaining my setup to solve my ISP issue.

I had everything behind my LAN, but published things like Nextcloud to the outside after finally figuring out how to do that even without a public IPv4 (being behind DS-Lite by my provider).

I knew about Cloudflare Tunnels but I didn’t want to route my stuff through their service. And using Immich through their tunnel would be very slow.

I finally figured out how to publish my stuff using an external VPS that’s doing several things:

• being a OpenVPN server
• being a cert server for OpenVPN certs
• being a reverse proxy using nginx with certbot

Then my servers at home just connect to the VPS as VPN clients so there’s a direct tunnel between the VPS and the home servers.

Now when I have an app running on 8080 on my home server, I can set up nginx so that the domain points to the VPS public IPv4 and IPv6 and that one routes the traffic through the VPN tunnel to the home server and it’s port using the IPv4 of the VPN tunnel. The clients are configured to have a static IPv4 inside the VPN tunnel when connecting to the VPN server.

Took me several years to figure out but resolved all my issues.

Which ones? Haven’t experienced any app that doesn’t work with GrapheneOS. Even my banking apps work. Only thing that doesn’t work is Google Pay.

Take something like GrapheneOS if security is important for you:

1. No bloatware
2. 7 years of updates on the new pixel phones with it
3. Much more secure than an iPhone
4. An iPhone isn’t really privacy respecting or similar even though Apple always claims it to be
5. An iPhone locks you in. Heck you can’t even let Nextcloud or Immich sync files in the background on iOS just because Apple says “no background sync only works good with our own services so you give us your money and use iCloud Photos and Drive”.

It’s not a front end for Lemmy but it’s a website that you can use to find new communities over several instances. It’s called Lemmy Explorer.

I fully agree. GrapheneOS also just received an update which allows to use Android Auto. The only thing I know of that’s not working under GrapheneOS is therefore Google Pay which is okay for me. This software combined with the Hardware is awesome.

Honestly everything besides Debian and Arch after distro hopping for years.

I loooove Debian and I don’t mind having older packages for better stability. However the only reason for me for not using Debian is actually KDE Plasma. I don’t want to miss out on new Plasma released and have to wait forever until I receive them.

I answered on another comment regarding ads in this thread to clarify what I define as an ad with that comment.

The files app has built in ads to push OneDrive to the users. And yes it can be declared as advertising because you can’t remove that ad and because MS pays Samsung for it (or gives Samsung benefits for it inside Windows on Samsungs computers).

Besides that there are the same kind of ads in the settings app.

And there’s also many components of the OS that push the user into paying money like for fonts or for Always on Displays or lockscreens or whatever else. Those are not direct ads but you could declare them as auch because of the fact that a user gets pushed into micro payments for basic customization of their phone which for me personally is a no go, especially if you pay money for a flagship phone.

Any idea how long it will take (estimated) until you can install GrapheneOS on the upcoming devices after they’re released?

And adds literally built into basic system components…

I disagree while agreeing. The biggest reason people use windows is simply because its pre-installed. That’s the same reason people use Edge on Windows or Bing as their search engine. They get it preinstalled and don’t know how to change it.

If you install anyone Linux and give them a simple and easy distro preinstalled they’re usually fine with a few words about how to use it, update it and install stuff. Especially if they’re not tech savvy because in this case they wouldn’t know exactly how to use Windows either. I mean look at companies: how many employees use Windows in their daily work but still don’t know how to actually usw windows? They get teached to use their software and tools but not the OS itself and have to figure things out on the OS level if they would want to change something on Windows too.

My observation was that people that are not tech savvy find it easier to understand some beginner friendly Linux distros than Windows.

If on the other hand a person is used to use Windows and knows how to actually use Windows it’s harder for them to switch because things are just different on Linux. For me it’s hard and annoying to use Windows which I have to do at work since February. Before that I used Linux in private my whole life, I used it in school because my school never used Windows as one of the few schools in my country and my last employer also used Linux. And from that perspective I can say that Windows is hard and not intuitive. It’s just being used because it’s being used. I guess you could compare it to Whatsapp vs Signal. From an objective standpoint Signal is better but most people still use WhatsApp because others use it and because it comes preinstalled on some Android phones.