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Mixtral GPTQ can run on a 3090

Mistral 7b can run on most modern gpus

How crucial is it to move these rocks? What’s the deadline? How many rocks need to be moved? Are there safety procedures in check, and will safety equipment be provided?

Yes. Let’s introduce OSHA standards into a theoretical example where moving rocks feeds people.

All the while spinning a billion bullshit nonsense side points.

Labor has a supply.

Labor has a demand.

To dismiss that is to dismiss reality. Yes. The nature of labor can change and some sorts of work can be abandoned when there is a shortage. No. That doesn’t invalidate scarcity and your “degrowth is good and okay” seems tor to just be a hilarious and twisted rationalization of how when your ideals cause the economy (and more importantly the general will being of people in the nation) to collapse that it’s actually a good thing.

Let’s imagine I had 100 rocks. For some reason I have to move them in order to feed everyone.

If I have one person I can move one rock a day.

With two people I can move two rocks.

And so on and so forth.

There is a labor demand - the need to move rocks.

And a labor supply - the number of people you have available to move rocks.

You can’t mind game your way out of that. Call it a commodity or not, you still need X people to do Y tasks and the discrepancy between the tasks and the people you have to do them is a measure and very real thing.

Because I did

Arrogance that knows no bounds.

You can’t “I don’t see labor as a commodity” your way out of scarcity. That’s just hilariously absurd.

Literally head in the sand sort of thinking.

destroyed by the British 1000 years before I was born

You acted like they still existed. In that case my original point still applies.

Those gift economies don’t work at scale and you would probably have a significantly worse quality of life if you were born to one.

any place in the milky way

This is kind of hilarious phrasing because these metals are actually more abundant everywhere except for Earth because on earth where they sunk down to the core of the planet. inside of asteroids and things like that there’s not enough gravity for that to happen.

Rare earth metals are actually pretty common everywhere else, China just cornered the market by having no environmental regulations, paying people to come into the United States and bitch whenever we make a rare earth facility because of environmental impacts, and using subsidy to undercut the rest of the world.

The moment trying to tries to block the world off where metal creation in the world will take off again.

Move there then.

Best method we have found so far. If you want cookie cutter efficient ass state made beds you can move off to the… Well, every state who has tried has collapsed so you’re shit out of luck.

The beds in that store are for accumulation of wealth

…selling people beds so they have beds to sleep in. Beds that aren’t riddled with bugs thanks to the store not being a homeless shelter.

it makes ZERO sense to me that the U.S. hasn’t provided everything possible to push Russia out.

Israel

China

Venezuela getting prepared to invade one of its neighbors.

Couple of nations in Africa are getting ready to go to war too, I forget what the name of it was, Uganda? They’re wanting to get a path to the ocean.

The United States needs to be ready not only to fight in Ukraine, but also about four other places in the world right now. I’m in full support of giving them everything possible, but there’s a lot of valid reason not to go full of ham.

That’s ( fixed, messed up mah conversion) .1wh for a second of 3090 time/ 30 images a second.

If a 3090 drew 3 watt hours in 1/30th of a second it would melt.

Possibly off by one order of magnitude though… Editing post to see, and it looks like I was. 300 images per charge instead of 3000.

This is outdated in a big way with stable diffusion turbo and the recent LCM models that can render images at 30fps on a 3090.

360w * 1s /60 seconds a minute / 60 minutes an hour = .1 wh/image

30 images a second? .033 wh

A phone battery is 3000 mah * 3.5volts = 10.5 wh

318 images per phone charge

My math is probably off, but you get the idea.

But the site I linked to above is selling this service and it’s telling me I can use the images in any way I want

Then the site is wrong to tell you that you can use the images in any way you want.

Or you are wrong for assuming you can intentionally violate copyright and trademark by using the AI tool to generate Micky mouse and then get all offended that “but the site told me I can use the pictures, it’s their fault”.

what happens when the output is extremely similar to a character I’ve never

Nobody knows yet. For the most part it hasn’t happened. Big services like DallE will assume all legal liability for you. Small services? It’s on you to make sure the image is clean.

The end result is that the copyright of everything not widely recognizable is practically meaningless if we accept this practice

You seem to have forgotten a small detail here.

This is already how it works. Every character has thousands and thousands of fan works, often supported by artists with donations and patreons. The status quo is that none of them get caught and sued until they get big enough, and that anyone who tries to sue these people are assholes abusing copyright law even they’re legally correct.

This is not a magical device that can “draw anything”,

Straw man?

Reading comprehension. This is an argument-by-comparion. It shows how your point is absurd and doesn’t work by comparing it against a magical machine that doesn’t yet exist. It shows how your idea of how copyright should work here is regressive, harmful, and dangerous by pointing out that you seem to believe that just because something could violate copyright that it should be prevented from existing, being used, or being sold.

This is a mundane device whose sole function is to try to copy patterns from its input set

You don’t own a copyright on a pattern or a brushstroke. You own copyright on works of art.

If you want to prove me wrong, make your own model without a single image of Micky Mouse or a tag with his name, then try to get it to draw him like I did before

Are you suggesting it will be impossible to do this? Because this will be quickly proven wrong and there will be a day and a description specific enough to produce Micky mouse from a machine that’s never seen it.

The mere fact that it will happen one day is enough. I don’t have to literally go invent it today.

There are many ways this could be done ethically

It’s already being done ethically.

Would it be transformative if I sold you a database of base64 encoded images? What about if they were encrypted

No.

Also no.

There is a long history of examples set by court cases on what does or doesn’t count as transformative. Law is very good at handling exceptions like this and it’s been handling them for decades.

An encoding is not transformative. It’s just the same information sent a different way. Same with encryption.

Hell, you can hire me to paint based on prompts you give me. That’s the exact same service an AI provides, no? I’m going to study copyrighted materials to get better at my service.

All perfectly legal and commonly done.

So you give me the prompt “Mickey Mouse” and I draw this. This is “custom art”. You think you can use that commercially?

No. Not for you and not with AI generated art either.

Copyright controls your ability to copy and distribute creative works. You can learn to draw Micky mouse, you can even draw Micky mouse, but anyone who tries to sell or distribute that copy can and probably will quickly get sued for it.

And if you realize that you can’t, why do you think I should be able to legally sell you this service?

If AI companies were predominantly advertising themselves as “we make your pictures of Micky mouse” you’d have a valid point.

But at this point you’re basically arguing that it should be impossible to sell a magical machine that can draw anything you ask from it because it could be asked to draw copyright images.

Courts will see that argument, realize it’s absurd, and shut it down.

Seems like a petty technicality to me.

They are selling access to the AI model which draws pictures. Not the original pictures, nor clones of those pictures. A machine to which you can input a prompt that is basically anything and get custom art back as a result.

Also there are companies like stability AI which is providing direct access to the model itself, and I’m sure you’re against them as well.

An AI trained on a single image would also probably be fine if it was somehow a generalist AI that didn’t overfit on that single image. The quantity really doesn’t matter.

The product is a service that writes code or draws pictures. It is literally the exact same as the input

Pictures and things that draw pictures aren’t the same thing.

The fact it’s a tool that makes art and completes with you has nothing to do with copyright. That would only apply if this was some convoluted scheme to make actual copies of works, which it isn’t. People just pirate for that. If I wanted to read this person’s books I’d go to pirate Bay, not chat GPT.

It’s not illegal for someone to read your books and start writing similar things. That’s not copyright theft, that’s a genre.

The internet where people make information free and for the benefits of the common good died a long time ago.

It’s very much alive and kicking.

All of the “silos” literally depend on it continuing to happen and exist only by nature of the fact that they’re still open and easily browsed by individuals. If Reddit turns off access to the average person, Reddit eventually disappears.

Notably, you can still get to Twitter though nitter.

You can still get to Reddit through various open source front ends.

You can still get to YouTube through newpipe.

You may not remember this, but there have been many attempts to silo the Internet. It always falls as the company that does so stagnates and users eventually abandon ship.

The few companies with the hundreds of millions of fuck-you money to train an AI will gain more control while also locking down access to their content.

And you want to give them the monetary incentive and make this future literally inevitable by locking data out of the hands of anyone who can’t pay.