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  • It was meant to be a self depreciating joke, but now I can’t help myself. I think this topic ends up having everybody involved make a bunch of assumptions about each other before it begins.

    However, I have experienced people say that they, “don’t want to get political,” right after being confronted for saying something misinformed, hurtful, etc. It can be weaponized as an excuse to avoid self reflection.

    I know that isn’t the case for everybody, but I have seen, “don’t make things political,” used as, “don’t bring in politics at odds with my own.” It’s often not even recognized by that person as being hypocritical. Sometimes our own politics can become the default in our mind and everybody else’s view is the “political” one.





  • The Geneva Convention’s definition of genocide. “… any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, such as: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

    You seem to defend a and b as necessary costs of doing business. Isreal’s frequent attacks on civilians, journalists, medical personnel, and humanitarian groups seem to conflict this. Look into the killings of clearly marked journalists.

    I’d argue that c is met by Isreal’s control of Gaza’s water and power along with the targeting of hospitals.

    The Geneva Convention on collective penalties. “No protected person may be punished for any offense he or she gas not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.”


  • Gazans not having access to clean water and electricity at the hands of an oppressor is going to radicalize people against that oppressor.

    I would like to reduce the casualties of Palestinian and Isreali citizens as much as possible. To come down harder on Palestinian civilians for the actions of Hamas is to send more people into the arms of Hamas.

    Learn from the actions of the US post 9/11. The increase in terror attacks against US civilians was a consequence of US foreign policy. Isreal is not trying to have a humanitarian presence. Isreali people are hurt by the consequences of these oppressive policies.

    Again, I am not justifying the actions of Hamas. Discussing the reasons for their actions is not an endorsement. If you want to stop systemic issuess you have to look at the root causes.



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    Plenty of that money has gone to killing Palestinian children. We need a more equitable distribution of resources if we’re sending money over. I don’t think we need equal amounts of rockets, but aid and a cease fire. If you don’t trust the channels that money will go to that’s what we have 3rd party humanitarian groups for.

    You can think Hamas is evil. That wasn’t my point. What do you think makes normal people turn into the types of people that join Hamas?

    Do you want to reduce the amount of serial killers? You reduce the amount of abusive upbringings.

    Do you want to reduce the amount of extremists?


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    In 2020 the US gave Isreal $3.8 billion. If you think Hamas is nearly as funded you’re bad at math. I’m down to give Hamas an iron dome.

    Do you think the effort is going towards tunnels and rockets because they’re inherently evil or do you want to think about the variables that caused this situation. Variables like apartheid, genocide, Israel’s military advantage, etc.



  • Or we get rid of the circumstances that led to them becoming bank robbers.

    Hamas does not just magically get support. People have been pushed to extremism by oppressive apartheid rule and genocide. TO BE CLEAR Hamas is bad and I am not justifying their actions. If you want to stop creating extremists you’re an idiot if you thinking harming a bunch of civilians in your attempt to wipe them out is going to help.


  • without even criticism of Hamas

    I typed out an edit before you even commented about how two things can both be bad. I wish you read it.

    Human shields aren’t being used because Israel has been too soft on Hamas. Extremism is created in places of oppression and desperation. To continue this genocide is to feed Hamas new members.

    I would like for Isrealis to be safe. That isn’t going to happen by adding fuel to the fire.

    Additionally, you’re justifying a genocide by saying it’s the only way to keep them safe.


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    Do we bomb banks when the robbers have hostages?

    Killing civilians because they’re in the way is BAD. Reporting shows Iarael is making minimal efforts to limit civilians casualties. That’s a war crime. War crimes are bad.

    I’m so fucking exhausted.

    Edit: Before anybody tries a gotcha. Taking hostages and human shields are bad too. Multiple things can be bad at once.