Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]

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Cake day: September 9th, 2023

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  • I love the game and completely agree. Apparently, there was a complete rework of the main narrative somewhere in development, with the original idea not including the emperor at all, but instead having a character called daisy, who you’d have a number of dialogues with throughout the game in a dream sequence at the bank of a river.

    Daisy being the representation of the tadpole, she’d try to convince you to stay down by the river with her, and the final decision of the game would be whether or not to give in.

    Not sure how accurate what I’ve read is, but I like that idea better.



  • or they live under a secular, democratic Palestinian state from the river to the sea where both the Jewish and Arab population live as equals.

    I don’t see the people who voted in and fully supported:

    the Zionist settler-colonialist project and it’s ambitions, the full extermination of the Palestinian population.

    Participating in a secular democratic Palestinian state in good faith. I also don’t see the religious and nationalist zealots that make up the current government and its core supporters agreeing to leave.

    but they are all in a United Front against the Zionist regime.

    United fronts don’t tend to outlive the enemy they are united against.

    I also don’t understand what the your alternative is? Palestine is unstable as fuck under two states. so what are you proposing?

    I don’t see how a single state including all of these groups, under a secular democratic government can come into existence.

    The sort of societal change necessary would require tactics similar to revolutionary China or Russia, full wealth redistribution, some form of widespread re-education and some form of vanguardist government to oversee the transition. The majority of people in Palestine would not support those measures, and neither would the surrounding powers.

    I really hate people who speculate and criticize without offering any actual implementable plans.

    My lack of ability to think of a solution to the problem does not stop me from seeing the issues with the ones that are proposed. (Or rather skipped past in most cases.) We all, I would hope, want to see an equal, democratic and secular Palestine from the river to the sea, but how does that happen?


  • One Palestine is not a recipe for a stable state imo. You can deport the settlers back to their countries of origin, at least the European ones, but that still leaves a sizable contingent, something like two million IIRC people/descendents of people who migrated/were forced out of the neighbouring Arab states.

    You have the Palestinian Arabs in Israel, a great number of whom have, at least to some degree, been complicit in the oppression of those in Gaza and the west bank. On top of that, they are considerably more materially wealthy and educated. Wealth redistribution could fix this, but would create resentment. Not doing so would create resentment on the other side.

    You have a rift between the secular and non-secular populations, significant differences in beliefs and politics between the west bank and Gaza, you have secular socialists and zealous theocrats, all militarised (by necessity and justly, but militarised nonetheless).

    A two state or three state solution is not just, but even with Israel destroyed, could a one-palestine survive even briefly?