• Blaster M@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    hardware requirements aren’t that huge … a cpu that supports 11 and 16GB RAM minimum. CPU has to support SSE4.2, which every 11 compatible cpu has. Honestly, this should be your minimum requirements nowadays. Anythjng that can’t do the job is literally 8+ years old.

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      every laptop that’s on sale right now under $600 has less than 16gb of RAM

      it’s not compatible with windows 11, but today apple is still selling $1500 laptops with 8gb of RAM

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        i just directed someone to a 12th gen laptop (i5-1235u) with 16gb ram and 512gb nvme at dell for $430 in a ready-to-ship configuration, search their site for nn3520gsbbs to find it.

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      PC vendors are still selling laptops with 4GB RAM. 16GB should absolutely be the minimum (and should have been since 2020), but it’s very much not true that anything with less than 16GB is over 8 years old.

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      Anythjng that can’t do the job is literally 8+ years old.

      So what? How about Microsoft lets me define what ‘the job’ is and I will decide for myself whether my machine is up to it? In my opinion the job of an operating system is to expose computing resources to whatever the user wants to do and then get the fuck out of the way.

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        The minimum requirements are there for them to set a lower limit on what they’re willing to support. You do whatever you want, just don’t complain when something doesn’t work, or breaks because you’re bypassing those limits.

        People do this all the time and then complain and blame Microsoft for issues when they are using an configuration they were told was unsupported and might have issues.

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          The minimum requirements are there for them to set a lower limit on what they’re willing to support.

          I agree and they’re free to do whatever they want. I get to have an opinion on their actions though.

          What I take issue with is they are enforcing minimum specs because they’re choosing to put a bunch of stuff in the operating system that won’t run (well) below those specs. In other words they are choosing the job that the operating system has to do (GenAI in this case) and I think that is up to the user, not the OS vendor.

          If the GenAI stuff they want to build in were optional then you could choose to purchase a cheaper computer or upgrade your existing hardware to a current OS. By going this route Microsoft is artificially inflating hardware requirements.

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      My PC has a i7-4790k overclocked to 4.5 GHz. It runs smoothly since I got it when it came out and it is still not a bottleneck in any of the games I play. But if I wanted to upgrade to Windows 11 I would need to buy a new CPU, new main board and new RAM, and it would not improve my gaming experience at all. It was my last machine running windows which I changed to Linux 2 months ago and I haven’t looked back.

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        you should be able to ‘rufus’ an installer for that. the instruction in the ‘new’ minimum requirement dates back to 1st gen.

    • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Imagine unironically defending Microsoft making their product shittier

      Maybe they should just make the OS work on any computer? Kinda seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot, yeah?