• Ludwig van Beethoven@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    It’s the disproportionate electoral system. A serious third candidate would “spoil” the vote of one party, and then you just hand the win to the other side.

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      8 months ago

      No, it isn’t. That’s the brainwashing part. Americans believe it so they keep voting for people they don’t like, keeping the status quo. Everyone you talk to is like “I’d vote third party, but the System”. If all the people that want to, voted third party, neither of them would stand a chance. But defeatism got into US citizens almost as much as people in Russia.

      • ansiz@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I mean, that is literally what happened to get us 8 years of W Bush, and the Iraq and Afghan wars. Versus Gore, who was at least running on a platform with heavy focus on things like climate change.

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          8 months ago

          Gore won the election. The media, and then the Supreme Court, insidiously handed it to W Bush.

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        8 months ago

        Mathematically, with our first past the post, and the Electoral College, we are deadlocked into the two party system.

        The only remedy will be to change both of those things. But until then you can make one of the following choices, depending on your political leaning:

        1. Liberal, vote for Biden. Good for Biden.
        2. Conservative, vote for Trump. Good for Trump.
        3. Liberal, don’t vote for Biden. Good for Trump.
        4. Conservative, don’t vote for Trump. Good for Biden.

        If there are other logical possibilities, is be interested to hear.

    • index@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      A third party would spoil corrupted red and blue ambitions because as soon as they see a drop in their votes they go in panic mode and they have to change their policies to actually appeal people.

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        8 months ago

        Republicans were (are?) a huge backer for the Green party because a strong Green candidate guarantees a Republican win.