• thezeesystem@lemmy.world
    2·
    9 months ago

    Don’t understand the * in that?? Like are there others included that are not worth mentioning or trying to be “inclusive” without being inclusive? Or is just those people just afterthoughts, footnotes?

    • finkrat@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 months ago

      Yeah even if there is a worthwhile footnote, that * signals that “there’s a catch, uh oh spaghettios”

      If you’re shouting out Non-Binary spectrum, Xenos, Agender, or others too just say so. If we’re talking trans folk, there’s no asterisk needed. If you are looking to include men, what’s the point of shouting out the women, just thank all contributors. The effort is nice but that bit of the execution is pretty flawed and opens up way too much discussion that gives the bigots a platform to yell on.

      • homura1650@lemm.ee
        1·
        9 months ago

        As a non-binary person myself, I actually hope the asterisk isn’t meant to refer to me. I get offended enough by the common “women and non-binary” phrasing. But to literally include me as a footnote under “women”? If I was a women, I wouldn’t be non-binary.

        Not to harp on KDE too much here. Even in queer spaces, enby erasure is annoyingly common.

        • finkrat@lemmy.world
          1·
          9 months ago

          Entirely fair and valid! Apologies for making it sound like that would be a good thing. Thanks for your input on that.

  • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
    11·
    9 months ago

    I don’t find any difference in men and women having some advantage in efficiency or design taste besides what they probably were encouraged to do while being dependent on their parents. It’s just stupid and unfair to hardline their future at that stage and later judge them by their gender while judging their employability or contribution. I’m happy some project and companies do care about that, because I encountered a lot of women being way better than me or their men coworkers in their lines of work due to their curiosity, responsibility and effort put into projects. I’d probably be happy if some successful start up would employ a women-only team to counter bigots and be succesful at that. And I can only cheer to parents who encourage their girls to try engineering, IT stuff and supporting them if they get interested in that.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
      1·
      9 months ago

      So counter sexism with more sexism?

      Everywhere I’ve worked people who are sexist get pushed to the side. It’s simply not tolerated when work needs doing, and expertise is what matters.

      I don’t care what your dangly bits are, or who you screw. Why is that even part of any conversation about making widgets better, or more efficiently?

      I’ve worked with people who love to talk politics at work, I can’t fucking stand it, on any side. It’s not related to what we’re doing, so keep your fucking opinions to yourself, and focus on the job at hand. Your politics only interfere with what the rest of the team is trying to accomplish.

  • Alex L 🕊 🇵🇸@mastodon.social
    01·
    9 months ago

    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

    In my experience #KDE is just as inclusive as anything else:

    If you criticize the EU you are labeled as a “nationalist” and “far-right”.

    If you criticize vaccination obligations you are labeled as an “antivaxxer”.

    And so on.

    Then you got banned with no right to appeal, just like everywhere else, just like in Middle Ages.