Overwatch 2 is the worst game on Steam, according to user reviews | “The people who make Overwatch porn work harder than the people who make Overwatch”::undefined

  • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
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    1 year ago

    This quote from the article is exactly why I absolutely won’t bother with OW2–“free” or not:

    “I somehow purchased Overwatch 1 for $40, which Blizzard then deleted and created this predatory microtransaction simulator instead”

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        Honestly, I would fucking pay for subscription if those cunts would’ve let me just to play original ow. Blizztards are the worst

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      Remember when they promised Overwatch players would be fine, and they wouldn’t be forced to play OW2? Remember when they touted OW2 as being different for having the basis of PvE missions and more story based content?

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          So did I. Even though I had sort of fallen out of love with Overwatch at that point, I was actually pretty excited for the story/PvE stuff. Then to be presented with the steaming pile of dung they gave us was just an insult to me.

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    I have a better solution that works for me really good. Any time a blizzard game releases I out right ignore it. So far it’s been going great for me.

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      this basically.

      Diablo 2 was the last thing i ever gave a shit blizzard did. once wow and subscriptions and microtransactions happened they became beyond trash.

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        I wish I did this… Diablo 4 has been such a disappointment. The story was pretty mid and the gameplay loop post MSQ is just not as fun as D3. Also, I played 5 hours this season and I was still only like level 20 or something, because of all the stuff I had to do again with waypoints, side quests for renown, and season journey in order to progress the seasonal quest. I just stopped. Kinda regretting getting the ultimate edition now

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          Well the great news is you won’t be making that mistake in the future. Hopefully others have learned their lesson as well. Fuck modern blizzard.

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            Everything after “What, You guys don’t have phones” was cake on the icing.

            They also recently made the upgrade path for Warcraft 3 classic untenable. I basically had to hack the Gibson to install modern Warcraft III reborn minus the reborn part because I didn’t have to buy it when it came out and I shouldn’t have to buy it now.

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    I truly detest the “review bombing” culture, but in the same breath - Blizzard has really screwed up on OW2.

    OW was honestly one of my two most played games of all time - and I loved it. The loot boxes were annoying, but hey…if I wanted to, or chose to - I could buy more and got a decent chance of getting what I wanted. The issue was that I had nearly everything by the end, and rarely bought loot boxes. The content wasn’t there to keep people buying cosmetics.

    The new shop/token/battle pass stuff is really really toxic to gaming. I will admit that I have bought a few battle passes. When the content is there, I will pay. I would totally buy skins if they were in the vein of $5-7usd, and were for a hero I liked… but there is no way in the world that they are getting me to pay 20-25 on a skin. Its honestly so disgusting.

    I really was unaffected by the single player stuff, because I only enjoy multiplayer games - but the way it was done showed disregard for the loyal players so it makes me lose trust in the company. I am honestly just sad about what happened to the OW universe. The only way for people to voice that feeling/emotion is to vent and move on. I guess the reviews serve as a good warning to potential new players.

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      I love review bombing culture. Because companies always (always) push to have more money. Ten years ago we wouldn’t think that loot boxes would be so common. Now lootboxes are more common and games more shittier.

      And sometimes people snap and just bury the game that crosses some lines. Imo those lines were crossed long ago. Now we notice it when the game is both bad and have loot boxes.

      But it’s funny to look at overwatch because they also gambled to push as much shit into the game and lost (at least I hope so, the game still have 50000+ players)

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          Steams reviews have a much higher weight in regard to a games success than any other form of review. The new Battlefront games came to Steam way later, when EA Play got introduced and a big chunk of EAs exclusive library moved to Steam. By that point the Battlefront games got all patched up and were somewhat beloved. But a native Steam release like BF2042 was met with harsh criticism, which ultimately let to the game’s failure. There is a reason why AAA studios like Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft or Microsoft prefer not to release their games on Steam and each have their own launchers. The lack of transparency is also why the Epic Games Store is an attractive alternative for publishers. I’d like to think that Steam has the most solid review system one could ask for, something that other launchers are severely lacking. An “overwhelmingly positive” status for a game is an automatic success and everything below “mixed” is nearly a death sentence. Even games that are successfull, like the recent CoD titles start out “negative” or “mixed” on Steam release. But that doesn’t matter anymore, because the publisher already got his money from their own launcher and console releases.

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          I have never even heard of anyone reviewing BF2 for the movies. Everything I saw and heard were for loot boxes, the levelling system, the guns, skins, or pride and accomplishment.

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          EA BFII released before TLJ (Nov 17, 2017 vs Dec 15, 2017). And the controversy for BFII happened before it’s release, more than a month before anybody had the chance to see TLJ. On top of that, because of the extreme amounts of negative press, all paid loot boxes were removed from BFII within like a week of its release, and all future content would be entirely free. So while sometimes review bombing may be people clamoring about ‘wokeness’ or just ineffective, BFII is not the example to use as it’s probably the singular hardest pivot in game direction in modern AAA due to player outcry.

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      Is it really review bombing though? Or is it just people reviewing a game poorly because it’s bad? Like seriously this is the whole point of reviews.

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        I do not agree that the game is bad. The gamplay, mechanics, and feel is near perfect. The design, art, and sound is amazing. I am not happy with the current state from a monetization standpoint, but to say it is a bad game - objectively, that is wrong. The reviews of the original game before the new monitization strategies were all great, and the core gameplay still exists. I still play, and still have a great time when I do. I just protest with my wallet. If it was a bad game, there would not be so many people playing it and shelling over money for skins.

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          If it was a bad game, there would not be so many people playing it and shelling over money for skins.

          Uh, no? It’s been proven time and again that people who buy skins don’t buy it out of love for the game, but because it’s effectively gambling and triggers the same spots in your brain that dopamine does.

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            I would love to learn more. Any links to reputable sources on that research?

            OW no longer has loot boxes or random chance, so plenty of people shell put for ridiculous skins for their favorite heroes, so this is a bit different of a case

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      I disagree on review bombing. It’s the public’s way of ensuring publishers ‘find out’ when they fuck around.

      Payday 2’s devs added pay 2 win loot boxes. They got review bombed. They changed their course.

      If the bombing isn’t valid you can read the reviews. If what they described doesn’t concern you as a consumer you can likely assume that it won’t color your experience with the game.

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        Not the best example. Payday 2 happens to be my most played game of all time. They did get review bombed when they added stat improvements on unlockables, and that was reversed, but they also got review bombed when they started microtransactions after very clearly saying they would never do so (drills/safes). That was never reversed, and only got worse with time. The fact that it is PvE co-op only, makes “pay 2 win” way less important, and I could still “win” very easily without any of those minor stat increases. The original vision was that players just pay for new heists, and anyone could play any heist - just not host unless they owned the content.

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    I pretty sure that at least 50% of the the blizzard staff who was laid off started to make overwatch porn. The single beauty mark on the back of the Pink Mercy skin is all the evidence that I need.

    If my claim is correct so yeah, people who make overwatch porn work harder than the current overwatch team.

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        Look closely on the pink mercy skin, one of the few skin that Mercy has a open back side, it’s has a little beauty mark in the middle of her back.

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            The person who designed the skin purposely put that beauty mark, is not from Mercy design and others skins with open backside doesn’t have it. If this is not some kind of fetish I don’t know what it is.

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    I have never paid for a single Blizzard game. I have never played a single Blizzard game. I have never been given any indication I’ve made a mistake.

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      You missed out on 20 plus years of good games. You missed the reason we have esports, Starcraft in Korea, great times.

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      Warcraft 3 is a good game, I loved Warcraft 3. I am sure warcraft 1 and 2 were probably good for their time as well. Anything else yeah. I got nothing.

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        And 7 years after the fact, how is your one time $40 purchase still paying to keep the servers running?

        I don’t like the monetary scheme that Blizzard settled on for OW2, I’m never paying $25 for a skin, but the $10 battle pass every 2 months is reasonable in my opinion.

        If that battle pass contained all of that season’s cosmetic content and followed a FOMOless scheme more similar to Halo MCC or Deep Rock Galactic, I think most people wouldn’t complain but clearly we have whales that are willing to dump stupid amounts of cash on singular skins.

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          I love how you’re pretending that the exact business model Blizzard operated on successfully for 15 years doesn’t work.

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            What other Blizzard titles relied on a single time purchase and loot boxes for their payment scheme? Wasn’t WoW subscription based WITH paid expansions? StarCraft and Diablo definitely had paid expansions.

            Maybe the argument could be made for Hearthstone or HotS but I won’t consider them Blizzard’s flagship titles either.

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          And 7 years after the fact, how is your one time $40 purchase still paying to keep the servers running?

          The company as a whole is profitable, and have been for at least the last few years. I’m on mobile so I’m not able to read their annual investor reports, but do they actually mention overwatch being a loss for the company on a premium model, or are you assuming that?

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            I’m making assumptions but I don’t think it’s asinine to assume that they would rather run their service with a constant steady income from a subscription model rather than a one time purchase over the period of half a decade. It would have been one thing if they released paid expansions to the base game every few years but they never did that.

            It also doesn’t matter if the company as a whole is profitable if Overwatch itself isn’t. They aren’t Kirkland with the food court hotdogs or rotisserie chickens, as in trying to use Overwatch to pull people into their other games even though it’s a net negative for them to continue to support.

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          What do you even accomplished by white Knight ingredients for a big media company with a long history of shitty business practices?

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            Not picking up a pitchfork and joining the mob is now white knighting? Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

            I’m not here to defend Blizzard, frankly fuck them and their mismanagement of a great IP, but people are definitely blowing Overwatch’s failure out of proportion and just hopping on a bandwagon.

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      they ruined the game with false promises of PVE for the last 4 years and then released monetization and nothing else. they just released a shitty pve gamemode thats 15 bucks for like 3 missions i think which is a slap in the face

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      It didn’t use to be.

      People give a negative review because they consider the game to be much worse than it was in the past.

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      I bought Overwatch on PlayStation, Xbox, Switch, and PC. I also bought it for my daughter on PC. We would play online together.

      I would then buy myself and my daughter each a big loot box pack when there was a new event (Halloween, Christmas, etc.) so that we could get some fun cosmetics.

      I paid A LOT of money for Overwatch.

      Blizzard then killed off the game. It’s gone. We cannot play it, ever again.

      In its place is now Overwatch 2. It looks similar, but it plays differently and has new mechanics and a whole-new monetary system that locks gameplay elements behind a paywall.

      The game now being “free” for everyone to download doesn’t make anything about it better. And it certainly doesn’t make up for the fact that the old game is gone.

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        plenty of games have made the transition from paid to f2p and lots of those have also been acompanied by large overhauls/patches. none of them i remember have had as large a backlash as overwatch did.

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          As of April 2022, Blizzard had apparently sold over 50,000,000 copies of Overwatch. That means it is one of the best-selling games of all time. That is over 50,000,000 copies now gone. Of course you’re going to hear a LOT of complaints.

          Were any of those other games you’re talking about as big as Overwatch? Were they as successful as Overwatch? I really doubt they had anywhere near the player-base as Overwatch.

          Lots of companies switch games around. Many times it’s because they are financially hurting or otherwise need a way to increase funding.

          Blizzard had a massive hit and also promised updates to make the game even better.

          After years and years of promising this, Blizzard basically told all their customers psych.

          Not only was the big PvE mode not coming, they very game they were already playing all these years was also going away.

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      What kind of attitude is this? You’re still being used by them as content for the paying users. I’d at least like to get dinner before i get forked.

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      Nothing is truly free, including this game. A fraction of the game is free, while the first one that many of us paid for is completely gone (which to me sounds like the grounds for a class action lawsuit but idk).