- cross-posted to:
- memes@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- memes@lemmy.ml
Did you ever hear the tragedy of WebP The Efficient? I thought not. It’s not a story the GIF gang would tell you. It’s an image legend.
WebP was a new format of pictures, so efficient and so lightweight, it could use modern compression to influence the web pages to actually load faster…
It had such a knowledge of the user’s needs that it could even keep transparency and animations from dying.
The power of modern computing is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
It became so widespread… The only thing we had to be afraid of, was people insisting on using formats from the 90’s, which eventually, of course, they did.
Unfortunately, we didn’t teach the noobs everything we knew about compression, then the noobs killed the format by converting it to PNG and sharing that.
Ironic. We could save the web from being too slow, but not from the users.
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Make default programs support opening webp files and the problem goes away. Until that happens users have every reason to convert files from a format that is a pain in the ass to open.
Make default programs support JPEG XL and the problem goes away, too, all with less Google.
Naming a compression scheme “XL” seems like a bad choice.
I have no idea what you mean. Now if you’ll excuse me, I gotta be getting back to my job at Titanic Boat Repair.
I highly doubt they use webp to further their ambitions in web-supperiority. They just wanted something where they don’t have to pay license fees.
Yes PLEASE, JXL is just way superior and it’s got the benefit of already having JPEG in its name which should ease widespread adoption. I never liked webp and it can seriously get lost.
This. No programs I routinely use images for support it.
They do.
Photos in windows supports it. Preview on Mac OS/photos on iOS supports it. I assume anything android would support it as well. Plus every web browser supports it.
But it took a while for it, and many people are probably running old software without the updates, so at this point the hate has cemented.
Nothing to do with users. Operating systems don’t support it in their default file managers and viewers.
I can view webp easily on both windows and Linux, but I don’t use the default windows photo viewer because it started sucking a few years ago. I don’t even know what I use
Will the real MrPoopyButthole please stand up?
Lemmy converts all uploads to webp.
Also the reason people don’t like it is because gallery apps and the like are behind the times, so you can’t just, open webps, sometimes.
Lemmy converts all uploads to webp.
Does it? I downloaded this post from Liftoff, it’s a jpg.
At least my instance does. You’re right, this post is hosted on .world and is a jpg.
And Discord doesn’t like webp as format for custom emotes. That’s the main reason I’ve been converting them to png or gif
Lack of good integrated support in Windows and Mac, as well as no native way to convert from webp means it is good when it is good, but infuriating when it is bad. If you just need something to work, you don’t want to fight with converting image formats, you just want to move on.
I supported the idea of webp, still do, but it’s 100% less widely supported on legacy software, and the OS does nothing to interpret for those software packages.
it’s a compressed image format you shouldn’t be converting between them
I should be able to convert whatever I want.
The take-home message here is definitely that WebP is secretly evil :P
From my point of view, gif is evil!
(Seriously, I have a real light-axe to grind when it comes to gif. I can live with jpeg, but the 80MB 10-second crappy gifs people keep sharing, make me lose my Jedi patience.)
Confession time: I didn’t realise webp was an image format - whenever searches came up with it, I assumed it was some shenanigans designed to prevent me stealing it … so I, um, took a screenshot of it,
In my defence, Windows doesn’t classify them as image files (rather as Internet Edge HTML Documents), and IrfanView32 (which you can tell is a great app 'cos its got ‘32’ in its name) doesn’t support them. I’ve since realised that GIMP and MS Paint do open them though.
Please stop running bloated websites with megabytes of dependencies on my chromebook or Walmart PC with a Intel Celeron that is 6 times slower yes I benchmarked them than my phone then maybe I would consider webp.
All in all though seriously; the only good thing about webp and the only way to get good performance out of it is to make your own site on something like Neo Cities from hand crafted html5, css and JavaScript and not load bloated dependencies.
Plus in general people would rather use png because it can be viewed on everything and some websites and services outright refuse to support webp so why not use png or jpg-xl?
Plus in general people would rather use png because it can be viewed on everything and some websites and services outright refuse to support webp so why not use png or jpg-xl?
Because PNG files are lossless and way higher quality than you need for sharing a meme over Discord. Using the extra 3MB isn’t worth it unless you can’t avoid it. And Jpeg XL is not supported by any browser right now and Chromium removed support entirely. Thus it’s most likely dead in the water, sadly. Your only other option for most things is regular old jpeg, which has all the old problems like lacking transparency.
Chromium removed support entirely.
Wow, fuck Google.
