Calling it simplified does a disservice of the real world impacts of the “trolley” - especially since unlike a thought experiment - this trolley problem is physically constructed by people to achieve imperialistic goals - so expending energy blaming random lemmings for this - instead of figuring out who built, maintains and presents the trolley as the only option and how to dismantle it seems useless.
I believe we should avoid infighting and actually organize to do something so we don’t have to choose if we pull the lever or not every 4 years (if there even is another election…)
You do not understand the trolley problem. It’s not about assoging blame it’s about the dilemma of no perfect choices.
If you refuse to make a choice until the system has been perfected, until the people who created the system are held to account, etc you are still inside the trolley problem and are actively choosing not to touch the lever. Everyone who chooses to not touch the lever has their own reasons.
They’ve articulated their’s. This does not change that fact that they choose not to touch the lever. It does not absolve their accountability. It is their choice and refusing to accept their accountability simply indicates they will refuse to touch lever each time they are presented with a trolley problem.
It is not in our interest to expect them change. So far, those who have choose to touch the lever have shown zero sign they regret their decision. Maybe they will but until they do, they are not welcome at the war table for solving the system. They cannot not to be trusted.
We cannot continue to be the weak forgiving party. It is the very trait being used against us. It is the very trait of the Democrats that many are demanding.
Those who refuse are among those voicing such demands but they have shown utter disloyalty and therefore have to be excluded from the solution as they do not pass the bar they have set.
Accepting those who refused the choice requires a compromise. Those of us who made the choice cannot afford to compromise. Things are moving too quickly to deal with those who must be coddled.
Calling it simplified does a disservice of the real world impacts of the “trolley” - especially since unlike a thought experiment - this trolley problem is physically constructed by people to achieve imperialistic goals - so expending energy blaming random lemmings for this - instead of figuring out who built, maintains and presents the trolley as the only option and how to dismantle it seems useless.
I believe we should avoid infighting and actually organize to do something so we don’t have to choose if we pull the lever or not every 4 years (if there even is another election…)
You do not understand the trolley problem. It’s not about assoging blame it’s about the dilemma of no perfect choices.
If you refuse to make a choice until the system has been perfected, until the people who created the system are held to account, etc you are still inside the trolley problem and are actively choosing not to touch the lever. Everyone who chooses to not touch the lever has their own reasons.
They’ve articulated their’s. This does not change that fact that they choose not to touch the lever. It does not absolve their accountability. It is their choice and refusing to accept their accountability simply indicates they will refuse to touch lever each time they are presented with a trolley problem.
It is not in our interest to expect them change. So far, those who have choose to touch the lever have shown zero sign they regret their decision. Maybe they will but until they do, they are not welcome at the war table for solving the system. They cannot not to be trusted.
We cannot continue to be the weak forgiving party. It is the very trait being used against us. It is the very trait of the Democrats that many are demanding.
Those who refuse are among those voicing such demands but they have shown utter disloyalty and therefore have to be excluded from the solution as they do not pass the bar they have set.
Accepting those who refused the choice requires a compromise. Those of us who made the choice cannot afford to compromise. Things are moving too quickly to deal with those who must be coddled.