• Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    29
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    I mean he’s trying to find the healthiest things to help people live longer.

    I’m not sure about the dick thing. But he’s carrying out many experiments with food, sleep habits etc.

    Although you’re only focusing on the erection thing. Which seems a small part of the research.

    I don’t think he deserves backlash for trying to help people generally

    • Idea@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      44
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      Is he though? He does so many things at once and only on himself. I don’t think you can call that research.

      • Kraiden@kbin.earth
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        38
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Also let’s be real. He’s not trying to help anyone but himself. If he ever does find some miracle cure that significantly slows aging, you can bet your ass that he’ll charge so much for it that only his billionaire cronies will be able to afford it

    • wjrii@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      42
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      And what useful data comes from one rich asshole trying EVERYTHING? This is not science, it’s existential desperation sprinkled on a soufflé of wealth and cringe.

      • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        35
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        Why are you so angry at him?

        He’s literally trying to make people live longer.

        I don’t see why you’re calling him vulgar names.

        He’s trying many things to see what works and what doesn’t.

        Your vitriol seems misplaced and I don’t understand your aggression towards someone trying to be helpful to society in general. It’s bizarre.

        • andyburke@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          31
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          People are upset because this person has the means to effect real altruistic change but instead is pretending to do science in a purely selfish effort.

          I hope that explains it. I have no horse in this race.

          • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            23
            ·
            edit-2
            2 days ago

            It’s the opposite of selfish, he’s publishing all of this findings to the internet for everyone to see and use.

            It’s not pretend, he’s actually carrying out methodology, posting results and showing what’s effective

            • futatorius@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              1 day ago

              His methodology is a joke. Throw everything against the wall and hope something sticks. He has no way of telling which of the many experiments is successful, he’s a walking collection of confounding factors.

              Also, if he were somehow able to find something that outperforms the null hypothesis, and against all odds, find out which treatment it actually is, he could just go drop the performative altruism, go private on it and try to monetize it.

              • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                7
                ·
                1 day ago

                Well yeah he’s trying many things at once because he wants to extend his life and live the greatest lifestyle. It’s not 100% an experiment. Some of it is just trying to live a longer life through healthy options.

                He can read the results for different areas. Ie sleep, how long, when and how that affects his well being.

                He’s trying to do a good thing and ask you guys can do is bitterly try and tear it down. I think you guys have an agenda.

                  • wjrii@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    7
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    On the plus side, we now have at least some evidence that Bryan Johnson is on Lemmy! 🤣

                  • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    14
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    You’re just trying to be antagonistic now. It’s the data sets. He shows what is beneficial, what’s increasing his longevity. It’s not that hard to comprehend. What decreases issues, what increase years a live on this planet.

                    Why would you attack someone who’s trying to help find what helps people live longer?

        • don@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          18
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          You can simplify all of this just by saying you’re a big fan of the guy.

          Literally everything in your reply is some extremely weird projection trying to invalidate another person’s opinion, and it’s incredibly strange.

          Honestly, you come across as a person who hasn’t had much interaction with different opinions, perspectives, and personalities.

          • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            15
            ·
            2 days ago

            It’s not an option though. It’s an attack. They’re just attacking his personality, or calling him names. That’s not opinion, that’s just trying to smear the guy.

            They’re bad faith arguments.

            Calling him a rich ar*ehole isn’t an opinion. It’s just being rude.

            • don@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              13
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              2 days ago

              Why are you so confused by this? It’s not at all as difficult as you’re trying to make it seem.

              You’re literally in a public forum trying to project your assertions about another person merely because you don’t agree with them. It’s perplexing, really.

              You fail to understand one of the simplest characteristics of the human species, and that is they’re not actually required to behave as you believe they should, and many understandably won’t.

              I reassert my original advice to you to broaden your horizons to endeavor to interact with others more and more meaningfully, so as to familiarize yourself with, and become much better accustomed to, the plethora of human personalities. You’ll thank me, I assure you.

                • don@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  I reassert my original advice to you to broaden your horizons to endeavor to interact with others more and more meaningfully, so as to familiarize yourself with, and become much better accustomed to, the plethora of human personalities. You’ll thank me, I assure you.

                  You really will.

                  • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    If they’re even real. So many bots around these days. And they don’t seem to want to listen so it seems like they have an agenda.

                    But your advice is cogent, if it’s a real person without an agenda

            • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              14
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              2 days ago

              Ooohh I’m sorry. “Himself” was the answer. Good game, thanks for playing.

              • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                12
                ·
                2 days ago

                He’s helping himself by publishing the results for everyone? That doesn’t even make sense.

                You’re being obtuse and and I question your intentions in have a good faith argument.

                • futatorius@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  He may think it helps others to publish his results. Or maybe it’s just a publicity stunt. But neither of those motivations mean that the results will be worth a shit.

                • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  10
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  Multiple people have already told why that “data” is useless. Why are you defending this guy so hard?

    • Tiger@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      I agree with you and don’t know why people pile on against you. Is the guy cringey? Sure. Would it be more useful to humanity if he just donated his money to existing and more reputable research? For sure. But he’s just tinkering on himself, which is his right, and shares what he learns.

      Is he misguided and a quack who may not learn anything? Maybe, but sometimes it’s the crazy folks who go against the grain that stumble on some good ideas.

      Also, if anything he tries is interesting, yes of course he’s just a sample size of 1 - the idea is that other people could research it further.

      (I think him roping other people in like his kid isn’t great)

      • Lemminary@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 days ago

        he’s just a sample size of 1

        And also he seems to be mixing “experiments” concurrently. How does he know what worked and what didn’t if he has 30+ variables to account for all the time? xd

        • Tiger@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          Hehe, he won’t know, it’s a messy method. The experiment is “does the kitchen sink approach of a 100 zany things do any good or not.” I’d guess not, actually,

      • futatorius@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        sometimes it’s the crazy folks who go against the grain that stumble on some good ideas

        The chances of that happening in real life are close to nil. Sometimes, people who actually know what they’re doing are mistaken or mischaracterized as crazy, but it’s not all that hard to distinguish them from cranks. And even among those with the technical or scientific competency to actually do things right, people often make wrong hypotheses. Science is hard.

    • HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      I appreciate his data collection and experimentation, although plenty of the data is anecdotal and the number of simultaneous experiments in a complex system is gonna make parsing out protocols a chore.

        • youvegotmoxie@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          2 days ago

          I’m open to having my mind changed if you can provide evidence of billionaires that accumulated their massive wealth by using non-exploitative practices

          • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            2 days ago

            Billionaires normally sell something that the masses want.

            If it’s not gained through criminal activities and people actually gave money willingly, then they’re providing a service or product millions of people wanted or used.

            Just because people made money doesn’t mean they did it in an egregious fashion automatically

            • youvegotmoxie@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              12
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              2 days ago

              Ok, so you don’t have anything actually valuable to offer in a discussion and seem to lack critical thinking skills. If you want to worship or do hand waving for the ultra wealthy, that’s your prerogative but don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining. Moving on

              • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                1 day ago

                I’m not and just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I lack critical thinking skills.

                What I said is logical

        • superkret@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          No, it follows logically. A person who helps people can and will never become a billionaire. Billionaires decide, on every day of their lives, to keep hording their immense wealth, where it serves literally no one, not even their own happiness, instead of donating it to help people who are literally suffering and dying from a lack of $100.

    • SoJB@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      You can just say you have low intelligence and fundamentally do not understand the concept of peer reviewed reproducible science.

      It’s shorter.

      • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Well then you appear to be the unintelligent one. Or just a shill for the fast food industry that he’s threatening trying to make people better.

        Because it IS peer reviewed.

        Peer Reviewed and Independently Validated.

        On his own website

        https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoprwrlBC5e2ui3tNzT0pfOaOL79VbLq4rWM8ya7XvATJVnYAZ5k

        What you’re doing is insidious.

        You’re fighting for making people ill.

        • futatorius@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          Or just a shill for the fast food industry

          Show me on the anatomically correct doll where Ronald McDonald touched you.

          • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 day ago

            Yeah but WHAT YOU’RE DOING IS INSIDIOUS! Insidious, I tell you!

            Lol this guy’s got screws loose.

            • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 day ago

              At least I’m not attacking people trying to help humanity. You’re trying to smear this guy. He’s trying improve people’s lives, while the fast food industry is nagging them sick. It sounds like there’s something inherently wrong with you if you support that.

              • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                What was that about publishing his sons erections at night?

                I never said anything about fast food. You know who has said something about food? You. Specifically “the gay food industry”, as if that makes any sense at all.

                • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  23 hours ago

                  That gay thing was a typo look it up. I changed it.

                  Yeah well obviously he’s fighting the fast food industry.

                  And you’re fighting him, so what if he’s looking at erections.

                  Are you that tied down that you can’t look after your penises health?

                  He’s not busy randomly doing it.

                  Erections keep the tissue healthy by bringing in oxygen-rich blood - the more they last, the better.

                  Without these regular exercises, the penis can develop scar tissue over time, making it harder to get erections.

                  We shouldn’t feel weird about our sex organs. They’re important too.

                  • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    21 hours ago

                    You need help.
                    Am I going to block your dumbass, or just make you wonder if I did?

          • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            He touched many millions of lives. And made humanity sicker for decades.

            But that’s a joke to you. Obesity is a pandemic