• exploitedamerican@lemm.ee
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      They manufacture consent, couple that with the extreme oppression and destruction of the middle class since the nixon administration and neo liberal right wing policies that doubled down on these awful ideas while actively working to subvert and undermine any movement left on meaningful social issues. We didn’t let this happen so much as we were conditioned to allow it and be too exhausted just barely surviving that we would not have any energy to actively fight and thwart a blatant class war waged against the working class and poor right in front of our eyes,

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      What are we supposed to do? Vote? Protest? I think you’ve seen how effective those are.

      So do you have any proposals? What exactly are we supposed to do?

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        Well, I was thinking of growing a group that focuses on helping each other reach self-sustainability, which would make controlling them extremely difficult, and would erode the ability of TPTB to exploit them. But my cognitive abilities declined very suddenly, and I struggle to keep a clean stack of clothes

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Wild how the only people defending Musk making a Hitler salute are a war criminal who is committing genocide and his father, who impregnated his step daughter twice.

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      Don’t forget there’s also the ADL, who want to equate those opposed to genocide as “anti-Semitic” and defend Musk who has been openly fascist and platforming Nazis for ages.

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    I know this isn’t the point, but they’re not even good jokes? On a technical level. Forget the subject matter for a moment, they’re just bad puns that aren’t very funny or creative.

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      Most likely had the idea to make some puns. Asked Grok and posted the responses he got. Path of least effort.

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      Agree, but the point of these “jokes” isn’t to be funny. The first objective is to offend and cause harm. The second is to phrase the offense in such a way that the offender has the option to say, “it was just a joke” when confronted by the offended. The guy has far more interest in causing harm to people than making them laugh.

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    This is in no way a defense of Elon. He is a horrible Nazi and he hates Jews and I’m a Jew.

    That said, I’m not seeing where he brought up the Holocaust. He made a bunch of very offensive puns regarding Nazi leadership, but unless I missed it, nothing about the Holocaust. All the critical responses seem to mention it so maybe I’m missing it?

    I guess I feel like “makes Holocaust jokes” is just unnecessary hyperbole when what he said was awful enough.

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      Himmler was a German Nazi leader and the chief architect of the Holocaust

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler

      His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!

      – Elmu

      I think it’s probably fair to call punning on the name “Himmler” to be a “Holocaust joke”, but I can also understand if someone doesn’t think it is.

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        I guess. It feels like a bit of a stretch to me. If they said “Nazi Jokes” instead of “Holocaust Jokes,” it’s not like that’s still not terrible.

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    “Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,” Musk posted Thursday, adding laughing-face emojis.

    Being a dipshit Edge Lord all the time must be exhausting. Remember “Poochie” from “The Simpsons?” Yeah, that’s Elon. To the X-treme.

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      Corporate news media is terrified of being sued for libel by Musk, even though it was obviously a Nazi salute. So they use words like “seemed” and “appeared” to avoid saying the obvious.

      But the problem is, if you want to be taken seriously as a “news” organization, then you have to speak truth to power and that’s going to make you a lot of enemies. Companys have legal departments to minimize their risk, but in the case of journalism, that department exists to get you OUT of trouble not to keep you from ever getting into it.

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    I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.

    The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from…

    And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.

    Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.

    I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.

    This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.

    Keep ready.

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      wow and is he an Elon fan too? or is he just one of those people who call everyone anti-semitist even those speaking against literal Nazi sympathisers lol

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      taking notes ah so nothing says anti-Nazi more than autoblocking Jews, interesting

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        Zionism is the fascist movement within Judaism (although many Jews reject it being associated with Judaism at all). Being against Zionism is no more anti-Jewish than being against white supremacism is being “anti-white”. That’s how that actually works. Jumping to accuse anyone criticizing Zionism as being “antisemitic” is just a lazy, intellectually dishonest smear that everyone sees through, and you should stop polluting conversations with it.

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        Autoblocking israelis and autoblocking jews aren’t necessarily the same thing. Zionists are essentially nazis. Hell, zionists collaborated with the actual 20th century nazis too. Lots of jews died because of it.

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    So, next time Leon Hitler visits Israel, he can walk around giving the Nazi salute to the fascist Ben and the Likud Party?

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    The tweet for those curious

    Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”