I have marked your words “incorrect”
This won’t happen, there is a lot of industrial software that digs it’s fingers deep into windows subsystems that wine does not support. Even popular commercial, like adobe, cannot run on wine correctly
At this point I’m not even sure Microsoft knows how some of those sub systems work, they just migrating ancient code bases and patching it enough to make it work again on the new compilers.
So windows kernel will exist untill everyone else leaves.
Move your workflow away from windows, if you can, as Microsoft doesn’t care enough about their userbase.
a lot of industrial software that digs it’s fingers deep into windows subsystems that wine does not support. Even popular commercial, like adobe, cannot run on wine correctly
I’d be more inclined to believe that these things are so difficult (nearly impossible) to get to work under wine due to some eldritch connection deep into the bowels of windows subsystems so old that current devs don’t even know what they do… IF it weren’t for the fact that a lot of them have fully functioning MacOS versions out there running. Maybe I’m a conspiracy theorist, but I fully believe a LOT of these big commercial software companies are ACTIVELY working to fight their own software being compatible with Wine - actively spending time, money, and effort to block Linux compatibility (completely negating the usual answer of “it’s too expensive to support Linux when so few customers use Linux”).
This is why there’s still Windows XP running major systems.
Windows kept changing anyway so maybe it’s possible that’ll still happen and people just get left with legacy OSs
Naa, I was a Windows kernel dev for Intel a decade ago. We had guys that knew different parts of the kernel. Microsoft engineers know the kernel well. They have to, they have engineers from different companies fixing bugs and making changes. I had my contact for the parts of the kernel I was responsible for and other engineers had their contacts. You have to think, some of these engineers at Intel have been working on the same subsystem for twenty+ years.
So windows kernel will exist until everyone else leaves.
Yeah, that’s what he is eluding to. Microsoft keeps adding to Azure Linux. One day, there will be a Windows user land for Linux, i.e. Win/Linux instead of GNU/Linux. It will be much cheaper to run a Win/Linux distro in the cloud than full Windows. Most users just use the browser anyways. Anybody that actually needs a program not supported by the Win/Linux distro can fall back to the full Windows. Eventually everything will be supported on Win/Linux. Plus, WoW64 is already a translation layer for 32bit Windows applications and there are others and have been others over the years. A translation layer to run legacy Windows software would be nothing new for Microsoft.
buddy there’s a better chance of trump transitioning than this
Maybe I could see that for Windows server. As more of that market moves to azure, the os matters less.
I’ve heard rumors that the dom0 equivalent in their azure virtualization platform is now Linux based. They still use an in house hypervisor, but may have moved to Linux as the management stack.
It’s a long shot, but if Microsoft were moving anything at all, it would be the server product given it actually struggles in market share.
On the desktop, they just don’t have much reason. They barely evolve the NT kernel so it doesn’t cost them a huge amount. The Linux approach to drivers would completely mess up their driver ecosystem. With the world of modern standby, windows pretty much gave up on long term suspend and instead hibernates, Linux refuses to even try to hibernate with secure boot. The features a Linux kernel brings to the table just do not matter to the windows desktop market. It would be a giant migration expense for no benefit compared to their current strategy of just hosting a Linux kernel as a virtualization guest.
I mean I would love to use a Linux oriented desktop management instead of Windows shell, but it’s abundantly clear that would be non negotiable for Microsoft, so I’d end up still stuck with my least favorite part of the windows experience even if the kernel were Linux
There will not be a desktop anymore before linux becomes the only mainstream OS.
Witness: android.
I’m have whatever he’s having
There’s a Jon Lajoie song called “Radio Friendly Song”. There’s a moment in that cong where he’s describing the (as of 15 years ago) modern trend of radio friendly songs being the same garbage every song. And the feeling one has thinking that every time a new song is released you would think the general public would eventually reject the same 4 cord note progression in every song. Then, he belts out a line that I wish were isolated, and could becomd a meme onto itself. He’s singing about how you would think the public wojld eventually reject these songs, and follows that up with “BUT YOU WERE WROOOONG!!!”
And I hear that line everytime someone says something blatently wrong, I hear just that line of the song. I wish it were on youtube, isolated so a 3 second soundbyte so I could just post it when I see something like that.
Because readkng you say that Microsoft in 2025 will turn Windows into a Linux distro…
“But you were wrooooong!!!”
Jon lajoie and I grew up in the same neighborhood (at the same time)… Legend
Wow. That’s a great story. Now show me your genitals, your genitals. Show me your genitals…YOUR GENITALIA!!!
But then you realize they DONT sell porcupines on the internet, and you say you know what world, you got me cornered again, I’m gonna roll another joint
OP is just MC Confusing.
I think it will become an entirely cloud based OS with a thin client booting the machine straight into their Edge browser. Pay as you go operating system that never leaves their Azure walled garden. Google’s Chromebooks were just ahead of their time. As Spock said: “it’s Linux Jim, but not as we know it”.
Lpt: guess as many crazy things about the future as possible and some will turn out true, then you can be a prophet
Some hardcore delulu
If Windows becomes a Linux distro that might save their share in normal desktop usage.
So I don’t see it happening.
They don’t care about their users.
That’s some strong copium
No it isn’t. It’s actually an old theory. Back when Microsoft started their “MS Loves Linux” propaganda, this was the rumour. With all the stuff coming out with .Net, PowerShell, and other tools quickly supporting Linux, that seemed like what was happening.
Actually, that did kindof happen, which is what Azure Linux is, but without the extensive compatibility layer.
Remember, kids: All guesses, zero coherence = bs
I’m sorry to say.
This is bold but actually in a way I think it has a possibility of happening cause Microsoft will figure they can make money from it
