• Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s a terrible practice and ultimately hurts workers. It should be banned simply because it promotes worker tax evasion, which is not what I really care about here, but it’s a good reason to make it illegal. Making it illegal is only way to stop it in the US. It’s absolutely rampant. You pick up donuts At the dunkin store and they ask for a tip now.

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        1 year ago

        I’m sorry but I have to take issue with “service is miles ahead”.

        American table service is weird. It’s an uncomfortable experience for anyone who isn’t used to it. You can call it a cultural difference but it genuinely gave us a feeling of revulsion - the fake friendliness, the platitudes, the hovering near the table, the constant refilling, the fucking survey mid-meal, the attentiveness barely concealing the determination to extract your money and shove you out and get another mark on the door.

        Perhaps because most of these things seem to primarily seek to recreate the experience of a slave owner and their chattel.

        • infinite_zero@lemmy.world
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          I’m an American and this stuff has always bothered me. I do hate having my drink empty, but I don’t need a refill when I have half left either.

      • krakenx@lemmy.world
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        Service in Japan and South Korea is better than in American restaurants and you don’t have to bribe the staff to be nice to you. The price on the menu is usually cheaper too.

        Also, pooled tips are basically a slush fund for wages since the entire point of tipping is supposed to be to reward good service and if the tip isn’t going directly to the person who provides the service, what’s the point? Ditto for any tip on a service that hasn’t even been performed yet, such as delivery services.

      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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        All that said: Outside of higher end catered meals in Europe, service at even a halfway decent restaurant in the US is miles ahead. Mostly because the staff knows that is how they get their bonuses.

        If your idea of good service is having a waiter with faked cheer jump at you every five minutes loaded with a jug of ice cubes to check if “everything is great”, then sure, the US style is miles ahead.

        If you just want a professional to do his job as unobtrusively as possible, the European way is the one to pick.

      • BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf
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        1 year ago

        Tipping culture does not create better service, have you ever been to Italy? People tip because its the social norm, not because they like the service.

    • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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      it promotes worker tax evasion

      this is the only argument I’ll hear in favor of tipping. People should cheat on their taxes until they pay as little as the wealthy.