If you want a fast, stable, and we’ll funded instance, try some of the porn ones.
Only if it’s Furry porn.
Move to a new, smaller, instance. You can still use lemmy.world as though it was still running at full speed. You can still post to lemmy.world or other federated communities and you experience won’t be so painful.
Lemmy.world is experiencing an influx of Redditors and with us good Redditors come our awful trolls. Growth, along with DDoS attacks have plagued the site since I began using it.
Yeah. There is little reason to sign up on the biggest server since you can see and interact with content from any of the servers.
I wish people would stop using this advice without some caveats. The instance you choose is also about the admins your choosing to have your account under.
I’ll stay on Lemmy.world because I trust the admin there. Any time you jump to a new instance, you better hope it’s run by levelheaded, fair-minded people.
You don’t have to jump to tiny < 100 user instances though, any instance within the top 10 is a good alternative to lemmy.world. If everyone thinks the same as you do, then there would be no point in federation.
Any instance in the top 10 is not a “newer smaller instance.”
Y’know what, you’re right, but in an ideal federated world, it is probably for the best if people branch out further than just the top 10 as well. The instance I’m on probably is not even within the top 50, but it’s fast, performant, and has all my subscriptions. Not sure about the admins, but I also have alts on lemm.ee and sh.itjust.works in case this instance goes bust.
Tbh, I kinda like that we have these growing pains. Helps folks leave out older expectations of monolithic profit-oriented social platforms. And actually put some money down to help host the specific niche community they really want to exist.
I’ll probably eat these words later but, as of this moment, I stand by it.
Yeah, this is the fediverse’s way of telling us to break our old habit of piling on a single site and to spread out.
Except…it’s being DDOS’d, so no, it isn’t.
If anything this is basically establishing to everyone out there that if you want to kill an instance or encourage people to move to a different one (with different admins who might have different…“styles”), just DDOS it and promote your alternative instance as a refuge.
I’m sticking with .world because the admins there are chill. Don’t feel like rolling the dice on a new instance where some power mods probably set up shop.
You do you, but I wouldn’t say that lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, sopuli.xyz or reddthat.col are power mods
Particularly sh.itjust.works. They’re letting the community vote on instance rules and the Admin is really chill
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It’s mostly DDOS attacks though, not the influx of normal users.
Really? As site_aggregates table getting 1500 rows updated on every single new comment and post local insert is just the tip of the iceberg of how nobody has scrutinized the PostgreSQL performance. Thank you to lemmy.ca last weekend for looking at AUTO_EXPLAIN on their data.
That’s why I joined my local “area of my country” instance. I just need to subscribe to all my communities here and I’ll be good. The app I use (Memmy) let’s you easily switch between profiles on any instance too.
That’s why I use lemm.ee
I got accounts on lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works and kbin.social. I had one on .world in the beginning, but the performance wasn’t great. Probably too many users.
That’s why I use lemm.ee
1993: God, how we would love it if someone could tell us anything was “just that simple”, and then of course when you see a pie chart you go “Oh, a pie chart…”. I mean, it has more religious meaning now than a crucifix to see a pie chart. I mean, because…. why is that so popular? Because it reduces complexity. The complexity is very real but his little soundbites - 1993
@garpunkal@lemm.ee - do you know of the history of site_aggregates PostgreSQL table?
no tell me more?
lemmy.ca staff was so frustrated with performance problems a couple weekends ago they cloned a copy of their database Running AUTO_EXPLAIN revealed site_aggregates logic in Lemmy was doing comment = comment + 1 counting against 1500 rows, for every known Lemmy instance in the database, instead of just writing 1 row.
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This looks to be the case.
Look at this
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I moved to sopuli.xyz because of this. I can still subscribe to all the communities I like so no point in staying in an instance that’s constantly down.
Problem is, so many communities are on .world now, so it hurts even from another instance
I hope people on the Fediverse will finally learn not to choose the biggest instance all the time
I think it’s more like the previous commentor said. It’s the communities more than the users. Every post, comment, like needs to be sent to every other instance that subscribes to the community. I suspect it’s definitely connected to federation. The reason being, at 20:00 utc yesterday lemmy.world stopped sending my instance anything (previously it was between 2 and 5 messages a second). It only started again at around 00:00 utc. I wonder if they were slowly adding instances back to federation?
In any case the load for that many communities with that many other instances must be huge. The advantages of the fediverse requires that communities AND users are spread between instances. In the current climate, the super instances have most of both and it must be becoming exponentially harder to keep up with hardware requirements for this.
That’s a very valid point. Sometimes I question if very small instances (1-10 users) are not more detrimental than anything to the general performance
Whose fault is it though? If an instance is capable of 100 concurrent users but everyone flocks to the two or three big instances. What to do? Block instances so they shutdown? Then when the shit really hits the fan there’s nowhere to distribute users to.
In the case of lemmy.world I might suggest they split the instance. Original lemmy.world keeps the communities but has no users. Create a new instance and transfer the users. That way the first instance is dedicated to federating the communities, moving the real time user database hits to a separate database. I’d also suggest preventing the creation of new communities on that instance.
In real terms it’d have been better if the communities were shared between instances more. Making a more even spread of the one to many distribution efforts.
sounds like a cool idea. hit Ruud up once they’re less busy.
You can check lemmy.world’s status page to see when it’s down.
Problem is that many times it will say “partial outage” but the website doesnt even work so technically it’s a full outage. I assume it’s to keep the uptime % as high as they can. So that 98.XX% uptime isnt very accurate at all.
What is their motivation about lying about uptime? It isn’t a business with advertisers, it is some dudes hobby server and some people who are donating despite what the uptime percentage is
correct, I dont know if it’s automatic to partial outage and manual trigger to full or how that works in their backend. But almost every time I’ve seen a partial (orange) outage, it’s a full blown outage.
Dude just move to a small, updated instance with good uptime. I joined aussie.zone and its never down plus feels so much snappier.
i tried this, is it normal to never receive the verification email? it says verification sent, i tried 4 diff smaller instances, and its been like 10 hours. i checked the spam too
🤣🤣 its just you dude. I have switched instances multiple times and never had an issue like you described. Try aussie.zone instance
5801ms, terrible
This is what happens when people don’t understand federation.
Do you know of the site_aggregates federation TRIGGER issue lemmy.ca exposed?
No. Care to explain please?
Are you just going to make one of these every single time?
Ugh
“Ugh” what?
Because it’s annoying.
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BACK ONLINE! YEY!
As of the time of this comment, now crashing
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