For all the people that insist that both sides are exactly the same - ask yourself why it is that people that are overtly racist, anti-semitic (not anti-Israel; those aren’t the same thing), homophobic, christian nationalist, etc. all vote Republican.
I like to put it so the MAGAts understand - “Not all Republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are Republican”
I didn’t realize Joe was so incredibly based
He didn’t write the line, but somebody did and it’s very powerful. I hope they got paid a lot for it, and I hope it lands.
Leftist-infighting aside, governance does actually matter, and you utter infuriating arseholes are still my brothers in this. I hope we find a way through, and I know a single individual won’t be responsible for it if we do.
Fuck all of you, me too, love you.
He’s still doing genocide y’all.
He’s not doing genocide, depending on your viewpoint he might not be doing enough to stop it up to abetting genocide but he’s not Netanyahu. Stick to the facts and don’t pretend Israel doesn’t have agency.
This is one of our resident MAGA propagandists, so they will not be doing anything of the sort. It’s questionable if they are even able to do anything of the sort.
It’s really nice that people on Lemmy are finally picking up on this.
Biden isn’t running for President, it’s okay to criticize him.
This “if you’re not with us you’re with the enemy” shit is gross.
This “if you’re not with us you’re with the enemy” shit is gross.
Wow. Said without a single hint of irony or self-awareness.
He’s directly supplying the genocide. Israel would have run out of bombs by now.
Israel is one of the largest exporters of military equipment in the world, they wouldn’t have run out of bombs by now.
So why are we still doing it?
We signed a 10 year deal with them in 2016.
We are also bound by the Leahy Laws, but those are conveniently ignored.
So would trump. I hope the high from your farts equals the high ground you feel like you have.
Trump isn’t running against Biden.
This is whataboutism
Whataboutism is when my biases are revealed and I have no strong arguments.
“Please post about this issue in a different thread so I can conveniently ignore it. I might even down downvote it so it doesn’t get any traction, but don’t ever bring this topic up when we’re circlejerking our beloved president who’s funding a genocide”
Showing how weak your arguments are against funding a genocide is not the flex you think it is.
Ikr, he just murdered trump and he’s what? 100?
Oh wow! The pot called the kettle black! 😲
Do you care at all about genocide? Biden isn’t even running for president, you can talk shit about him and it won’t help Trump at all.
Yet you still support him and his genocide. 🤔
Do you care about genocide? You don’t make it look like you do. Because most people take genocide seriously and don’t just throw around accusations about random strangers. And they understand the real barriers there are to reducing and stopping it, and who bears the most responsibility for those barriers, and who is simply forced to bow down to them.
This kind of provocative rhetoric is harmful if you actually want to stop it. You’re getting bombed by downvotes not because what you’re saying, but because the way you’re bringing it, even people that want to stop genocide consider you to be a negative impact on how we actually reduce it. Think about that for a moment.
You’re undermining your own cause, and it’s hard to differentiate you from someone who wants to muddy the water so we don’t discuss atrocities in good faith at all.
This poster absolutely does not care. They’re just using it to make themselves feel better than everyone else. It’s been this way for months.
I have them tagged, they admitted that they’re a teenager in school, and they were shocked to find out that Hamas wants genocide lol
No actually this comment thread makes me feel fucking horrible and sick.
Oh yeah, obviously everyone in this thread is directly endorsing Palestinian genocide because we are agreeing with Biden about the racists in our country being emboldened by Trump.
Anyone attacking me for pointing out the fact that Biden is doing genocide is, in fact, endorsing the genocide.
Biden is not running for President. You don’t need to protect him anymore to stop Trump. So, speak out!
If you won’t speak out, even when attacking Biden has zero impact on the race, you are literally a genocide supporter.
No the fuck they are not and your bullshit take on this is not helping the Palestinian cause in the slightest. I’m not even attacking you, I’m disagreeing, which is a huge difference, but one that requires understanding of nuance and the fact that the world is not black and white.
your bullshit take on this is not helping the Palestinian cause in the slightest.
oh… but your bullshit take is sure helping the palestinians. isn’t it?
You guys are all about nuance when it suits you. Like vietnam, afganistan, iraq and all those warcrimes speak volumes about what your nuances you like defend. Get off your high horse and do some self-reflection at some point in your life. You are not the force of good in this world, and never were.
Genocide is, in fact, black and white. Either you’re against it or you’re for it, there’s no third option.
Name a single fucking reason for someone to stand up for genocide Joe, other than support for genocide. He’s not running for President anymore, you don’t have to keep defending him. Please!
Lol. You throw out logical fallacies, then immediately play martyr. It’s just too good.
🤓
Wow, holy shit this is hilarious. Liberals are projecting so hard, and they think they’re the ones in the right for saying this manipulative bullshit.
Incredible. It’s just too good.
We’re going to remember you collaborators.
Wasn’t he working on a cease fire? I stopped following after all the “genocide joe bots” flooded this place. They really didn’t help the cause.
Israel assassinated the guy they were negotiating with when he was in Iran.
It’s always been a fucking lie.
I see where we’ve been pushing for a ceasefire for months. We’re not there killing people. You should be upset with Israel, yet you post this shit like it’s our fault Israel went ham after a terrorist attack.
I think it’s all bullshit and everyone needs to sit the fuck down but that doesn’t drive profits.
It’s our fault that Israel has enough weapons to carry out this genocide and it’s our fault that none of the other actors in the region can pressure Israel to stop. Israel literally would have run out of bombs by now! The blood is on our hands.
We never pushed for a real ceasefire by the way, we have only ever pushed for a temporary pause to release the hostages.
What’s actually needed is a permanent ceasefire, a hostage exchange (so a release of all Palestinian prisoners), and an arms embargo on Israel. That’s the bare minimum needed to end the conflict - it doesn’t even get into the reparations Israel should be forced to pay or the truth-and-reconciliation commission that should be set up to try soldiers for their crimes against humanity.
You don’t think someone else would have given them the guns and bombs??? Your blame game is bullshit. Israel is doing the killing, blame them. Blaming our President is a ridiculous take. Do you blame the gun manufactures for the school shootings?
No one else even could. The US has an unparalleled ability to supply weapons.
Germany would supply some, I’m sure, but they couldn’t keep up with Israel’s demand.
You know this how? Feelings? Your degree in political science? Or just bullshit?
Personally, my money is on bullshit, if you’re even real. How’s the family?
Others would have supplied guns and bombs so we supplied it.
What kind of lunatic argument is that?
So much winning. Damn.
Do you blame the gun manufactures for the school shootings?
If they knew they were specifically being used for school shooting, just like israel is doing genocide? Yes, you buttstain.
Serious case of brain rot you have in these threads.
.ml, all I need to know about you. Troll on bro
And what outcome do you have from voting that isn’t genocide? You either have implicitly helping genocide through weapons or explicitly helping by backing Israel no matter what and getting US troops involved. And not voting is just helping the latter side. It sucks and we definitely need to protest more and apply pressure how we can but there aren’t really that many choices for us through voting.
No one is voting for Biden! He’s not running for President!
You are free to speak out against him now, don’t you get it?
I was also free to speak out against him before and did, but that didn’t change that I was gonna vote for him even though I have some problems with him. And the same applies to Kamala as well, who at least on Palestine and Israel seems to have the same exact position as Biden.
You only get to vote once every few years.
You can use your voice right now to oppose genocide.
Ok, and it’ll be genocide here and there under Trump. Until you can provide a solution, stop whinging about the choices that are forced on us.
Silence is support and I am not a genocide supporter. The least you could do is fucking speak out.
Biden isn’t even running for president. How the fuck does it matter if I point out he’s an evil piece of shit?
You do not have to like it or support it, but the option you are presenting gives you no control.
If you want to sit out in the rain and complain about the rain, that’s your lookout. I will take the action that is most likely to possibly lead to less genocide.
By that I mean voting in people who are at least pretending to listen to my desires. Even if in the short term it doesn’t solve the problem.
Genocide isn’t the weather. It’s being done by people and that means we can fucking stop it.
You have to speak out if you want genocide to stop or it will never end. Israel will kill and kill until all 2.2 million people in Gaza are exterminated, and in the meantime they’re going to start fucking World War Three and drag us down with them.
You’ve completely given up on changing anything until next year, haven’t you? Holy shit.
What you’re doing is the same as the weather. “I hate this! I will become ungovernable until someone fixes this! Blah blah whine!”
What do you propose then? Because aside from direct action that is dubiously legal, I am doing what I can. I await your genius plan to stop what’s happening in Gaza. I’m sure you’ll have it any day now.
Edit: unless this is your plan. I wish you luck with “be surly on lemmy.”
It’s the strategy of contention. Being “ungovernable” pressures the government, there’s a toolbox of available mechanisms for doing this and one of those tools is your voice! You need to speak out at every opportunity and make it very clear that you oppose the genocide. It costs you nothing besides your internet points.
Don’t doubt that politics of contention are half the reason Biden was forced out of the race! People opposed him as the nominee and donors knew this, so they pressured him to drop out. Granted, they claim the only reason was because he was too old (and he is) but don’t doubt that the uncommitted movement helped to push him out of the race.
Direct action gets the goods, but it’s not the only thing you can do. You can always always raise your voice in opposition.
You aren’t going to help Trump by attacking Biden. It’s okay.
So, be surly on Lemmy. Good luck!
Ah, and there it finally is.
Liberals advocating for genocide, again.
Reads almost like song lyris
Every time that Ku Klux Klan has been involved,
they wore hoods, so
they are not identified.Under Trump’s presidency,
they come out of those woods.
with no hoods,
knowing
they have an ally."…Instinctively read that out RATM-style.
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
A screen shot of twitter post, with a video. Lazy.
Not OP, but here’s the original tweet with the video on a nitter mirror:
https://xcancel.com/CalltoActivism/status/1822785991192494548
Online politics are such a complete waste of time. I’d lose all respect for anyone in real life that spends half their day bullshitting about politics online. That’s how you can tell they have no life.
Everything in life is politics. I had hate to be too simple to understand
I’m sorry but a guy supporting the Zionist ethno-Fascists who are way more racists and murderous than the Ku Klux Klan to the point of targeting Palestinian children with snipers, has no moral high-ground to use the Ku Klux Klan as example of horrible racist people because he himself is way much worse: his moral “high-ground” is the mountain of blood children’s remains with an Israeli flag on top that he helped build with weapon shipments and diplomatic cover for the Zionist Genocide.
This fucking Nazi-loving disgusting hypocrite sociopath should shut up and let Kamala do her thing.
Fuck Putin.
zionists are not nazis stop dehumanizing people
we care about palestinians more than palestinians themselves, most zionists want 2 state solution where as palestinians want only one state
Damn, you really swallowed the Israelian propaganda pill didn’t you?
“we care about palestinians more than palestinians themselves”
Do you even hear yourself? How on Earth can you think any person doesn’t value their own life? Let alone a whole group of them with the only thing in common that they live in a certain area.
And the Palestinians aren’t the ones who make sure they are starving to death, getting dehydrated with no access to medicine, and they aren’t blowing up their own buildings.
I hope every single zionist to be treated the way they treat Palestinians.
