Sublette County Sheriff K.C. Lehr has received more than 7,000 emails about a Wyoming man who reportedly captured and tormented a wolf before killing it, he told Cowboy State Daily on Wednesday.
Some of those are threats.
Lehr said people in his office, as well as Sublette County and Wyoming Game and Fish Department personnel, have been receiving threats — including death threats — stemming from Daniel, Wyoming, man Cody Roberts’ reported capture, torment and killing of a wild wolf in late February.
Yea, fuck him - he’s just an ass.
People who grew up with him can probably attest to this.
Oh yeah. He’s been a bully for a looooong time to be smiling that hard in that photo, possibly even a sociopath.
Honestly surprised he’s not a cop
Yeah when I was reading that quoted blurb, i was definitely assuming they were gonna say he was a cop.
Can’t imagine a non-sociopath would do something like that to another living creature.
I grew up on 10000 acres of farmland. My entire family were proud “poachers”. I’ve seen some shit, including a bullet riddled bald eagle behind the barn.
Some of my earliest childhood memories were of my grandfather and deaf uncle chasing around coyotes like unhinged psychos with the dog waggon. Watching the greyhounds run them down, and tear them to shreads while they laughed and had a great time. Coyote pelts used to bring a lot of money as well.
Now, I never liked this behavior even though I was raised and forced to participate, but I certainly understand how these morons become this way. They mostly behave this way with predatory animals like wolves, coyotes, hawks, etc. Animals that kill all their chickens. Break their cattles, or horses legs and may or may not kill them. They take pride and satisfaction in ridding the earth of these “varmint”.
Now I am mostly vegan, aside from my love of raising chickens, and eating their free range eggs. And I love all animals! But, I want to murder the fuck outta those rat bastard possums when they weasle their way into my henhouse at night, and I wake up to my babies feathers and caucuses splayed across the yard.
Sure, but I hope we can all agree that directly threatening this guy with death is not an acceptable response.
I don’t think anyone that enjoys torture in any form has a place in our society so I’m ok with it
No. People don’t live in enough fear of society anymore and it fucking shows by society literally falling apart before our eyes.
Do you think in a village of 10 this behavior would have stood? Fuck no. They would have either corrected the behavior early on or just cast him out of society to live alone and die alone.
Yeah, torture is a far better punishment.
Scum like him deserves permanent suffering, and any piece of trash defending him deserves at least a tenth as much.
It’s not about what he deserves, it’s about how we choose to punish him. He probably thought the wolf “deserved” torture. You want to stoop to his level?
Paradox of tolerance garbage doesn’t work, stop using fallacious reasoning. Fucking up a psycho who tortures animals doesn’t make you a worse person. Quite the opposite.
This has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance.
I just don’t want any part of a justice system that includes “fucking up psychos” just because they’re assholes who probably deserve it.
Societies the world over moved past that type of revenge based / satisfaction owed justice system a few hundred years ago.
We killed all the Nazis.
Unfortunately no, but we absolutely should have.
No we didn’t. We were at war with them, and killed just enough of them to force their surrender. Thereafter the remainder were not rooted out and murdered, although many were tried for their crimes. Many fled and were more or less allowed to do so. Some were adopted by the US in operation paperclip.
Ugh? When and where?
Nope, I don’t agree.
ya we should actually just kill him
I admire your naivety about the reasonability of an average Lemmy user.
Yeah I didn’t realize this was the “pro death threat” community. I’ll see myself out before someone claims I’m defending a POS animal torturer.
You’re the voice of reason here. Don’t let the mob bully you away from what you know to be true and moral. Sometimes the majority are all wrong.
Animal torture is really common trait in psychopathy.
The guy needs to be detained and evaluated whether he would get a prison sentence or sent to a psych ward. He, however, will probably just get 6-12mo without any evaluation and likely continue; just behind closed doors next time.
He’ll be a Republican senator in no time.
Animal abuse is about politics aswell.
Cody Roberts is 42 years old today because Cody’s birthday is on 09/19/1981. Cody Roberts currently lives in Daniel, WY; in the past Cody has also lived in Pinedale WY. In the past, Cody has also been known as Cody Joe Roberts and Cody J Roberts. Background details that you might want to know about Cody include: ethnicity is Caucasian, whose political affiliation is currently a registered Republican; and religious views are listed as Christian.
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if you consider humans are animals yeah
if you consider humans are animals yeah
We should prosecute animal cruelty the same as human-related crimes. Most serial killers start with animals. By treating animal crimes the same as human crimes, we would lock up a lot of sick fucks early in their careers.
I object to this characterisation because animal torture is also a really common trait in neurotypicals. There are even some cultures in the west that eat babies because they say a baby sheep’s corpse tastes better.
okay so in your effort to imply that every meat eater is as bad as this guy, you’re saying that this guy isn’t all that bad in comparison and you expect people to respond to that how? You’re coming across more as an animal abuse apologist with this comment than an animal freedom fighter, but you do you
No, I didn’t say he’s not bad. I said he isn’t neurodivergent. If you think neurodivergence is bad, then you’re not just an animal abuse apologist, you’re a human abuse apologist. Personally, I don’t care what his neurotype is, because it doesn’t affect my estimation of his moral character. He’s an animal abuser, and using a controversial mental health term doesn’t inform my judgement of that fact. But I do object to the implicit assertion that neurotypicals do not tend towards animal abuse.
That word seems to be losing more and more meaning but I think the assertion is valid; you don’t torture animals if you’re a sane stable individual. That this is more typical in psychopathy completely tracks.
Neurodivergent is a pretty broad term. It just means anyone who isn’t neurotypical.
Yeah, but someone else injected that into the conversation in order to take offense. The person that started this said psychopathy and someone else took that as “neurodivergent slander.”
A psychopath can be a psychopath, that doesn’t mean an autistic person or any other type of neurodivergence is the same kind of bad (they’re not bad at all, just need to clarify that.)
you don’t torture animals if you’re a sane stable individual
Except that there are plenty of neurotypical slaughterhouse workers. That said, the toll working in a slaughterhouse takes on a person’s mental health is beyond what I would wish on my worst enemy. Taking lives all day every day, sometimes not hitting right and watching the animal suffer before you hit it again, being surrounded by all that death, the severed cow heads in the bins staring lifelessly back at you as if in accusation… that fucks a person up. That turns mentally healthy men into the kind troubled enough to attempt suicide. But they are, most of them, when they start working, mentally healthy. Studies have tracked the mental health of towns before and after a slaughterhouse opened and started offering jobs. Violent crime went up. Spousal abuse went up. Drug problems went up. Those workers were okay, and they took a job society says isn’t that bad, is necessary, and it ruined them. Turned them into the kind of men who would beat their wives, because you have to become a violent and dangerous person in order to survive working a job like that.
And the person forking over their ten dollars to McDonald’s for a Big Mac is financing all that suffering. That person is not mentally ill, they are doing what society says is completely acceptable and normal. But it isn’t.
Working at a slaughter house isn’t the same as torturing animals for fun I can definitely see how slaughterhouses would attract that sort of person, but they’re still not the same thing.
I’m not really trying to defend or argue against the factory farming industry. Just pointing out the false equivalency.
But buying a burger is the same as torturing animals for fun. Meat isn’t fun for the slaughterhouse worker, it’s fun for the customer. And the customer is the one making the whole operation happen. All the money comes from the customers.
Oh well I guess that’s alright then. Move along.
Eating grown sheeps is morally better because…?
Game and Fish handled Roberts’ case, which reportedly resulted in a $250 fine
Hopefully some of these threats are serious. I can picture some bright red tape wrapped around this MF’s mouth.
Remember kids, revenge is a dish best served cold. Wait until the publicity has died down.
$250 is not a fine, it’s a torture fee.
He probably spent more on gas.
That’s just like a poaching charge or something, the criminal bit gets to where its animal cruelty towards a protected species (in most of the US iirc).
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Jesus, didn’t need the photo.
Suffice it to say, I would really enjoy reading his obituary. Also, shouldn’t call him a hunter. Hunter safety courses explicitly teach to minimize pain and suffering and to abide by the law, which this fat piece of trash purposefully did not do.
I don’t get people who take, like, joy in torturing or killing animals in this way. It seems supremely fucked up to me. And I hunt.
It’s fucked up to you because it’s fucked up. People who torture animals make me change my position in torture.
Anyone torturing animals should be subjected to torture himself. Fucking piece of shit.
You’re probably struggling to see their perspective because you aren’t a psychopath. If you were a budding serial killer working your way up to torturing humans I bet it makes perfect sense.
It can be a lot of things, none which make sense to normal people. My guess is it’s mostly a power thing. This guy felt big and strong and intimidating for a moment of his life and he wanted to bask in it.
Because he knows, just like the rest of us do now, that he’s really just a sad, scared piece of shit that would piss his own pants and cry like a baby the minute someone his own size decided to pick on him.
In fact, I bet his pants are filling up with piss knowing that he’s a national news story and people want him dead for his behavior. I just hope he doesn’t have another victim to take his frustration and fear out on. Unless he wants to make that victim himself.
As you feel about others, I feel about you.
Well factory farming is disgusting to me and I don’t want to quit eating meat so w/e man.
Yes, that’s why I feel the same way about you that you feel about this man.
No one, and I mean no one, gives a shit what you think.
See I knew I wasn’t going to have to respond because I knew someone would jump in and stick up for me over this haha
No one cares. You’re irrelevant.
Well this story just bummed me the fuck out. That dude needs to be in someplace for psychiatric help. Shithead sociopath.
That’s the thing. He seems pretty normal. Our society and its most basic concept of decency has been decimated to such an extreme. Half of the people in this country may not even blink to an asshole like this torturing an animal for the lulz.
This coward deserves every possible malfeasance in his life, but unfortunately, we no longer care enough to go beyond feeling nauseated online.
Just because most of our populace is sick doesn’t make it normal.
In a profoundly sick society, “normalcy” is being part of the problem.
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Most of our populace isn’t sick. Don’t listen to that dude’s whining. It’s obvious that the overwhelming majority of people find this objectionable and fucked up.
It’s obvious most people can’t differentiate normal from normative.
Half? Nah, 90%. There’s more than 90% who aren’t vegan.
Fuckoff, I only want to torture people. Animals get a quick death.
I can’t take you seriously when it’s clear you only chose your diet to feel superior. You don’t actually care and it shows. Probably just a tourist. We don’t claim you or want you here making us look crazy and unreasonable.
First off, you’re talking nonsense because I’m disabled. Secondly, what you’re saying is impossible. Why would I consider moral superiority valid if I didn’t care about others? If I didn’t care about others, I’d obviously adopt a might makes right philosophy or something abstract like exclusively valuing beauty or truth or intelligence or something. You believe that I think vegans are superior to carnists, and therefore you believe In invested in the idea of moral superiority. Therefore it’s impossible, according to your beliefs, that I don’t care about others.
You’re saying impossible, self-contradictory garbage because you can subconsciously sense that I have NPD and that makes you feel angry and hateful at me. There is no rational basis for your feelings, you just don’t like people who are different. That’s why what you’re saying is completely irrational.
Nah, I just don’t respect or like you specifically based on how you communicate. You’re really full of yourself to think I considered you more than that surface level. Write another couple of paragraphs about how you don’t have NPD lmao
You’re telling a very blatant and easily disproven lie. You’re currently claiming you didn’t consider me more than surface level. But earlier, you claimed that you knew that I was hiding my motivations for choosing my diet.
You’re not that interesting dude let it go 🥱
You can’t really trust a person like this to exist as a free individual in a society. Never mind not having a grain of sympathy even when directly observing the pain and suffering of another living being, he seems to be enjoying it. He is basically like a 5 year old with no understanding of the consequences of his actions.
It concerns me how accepted and common that type of mindset seems to be in America right now.
I don’t think there are a whole lot of people that are okay with animal cruelty.
Cruelty to other people does seem okay with about 50% of people. Interesting, no?
Is it? I don’t know anyone who thinks it’s acceptable to torture an animal of any kind.
Therefore none must exist!
And because you know a handful of people who do it must be accepted by the majority?
I don’t remember saying or implying these people are the majority.
And I didn’t say that none existed but here we are. Saying that it is accepted implies a majority agree though.
There have been 21 lethal attacks of wolves on humans in the recorded history of North America EVER and 2 lethal attacks in the last century.
https://pounceconservation.weebly.com/how-common-are-wolf-attacks.html
The reintroduction of wolves transformed the ecosystem of Yellowstone for good. They not only hunt but disperse ruminants so they don’t concentrate on specific locations and interrupt plantlife there. They hunt weak prey, maybe those that suffer from illness (like CWD) already. They leave carrion for scavengers who can spread seeds of specific trees like willows which also had a comeback in Yellowstone. Through dispersing the ruminants they enabled the comeback of the beaver who also worked towards restoring the plantlife via new waterways.
https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/
I’m from Europe but I see the stupidity and sadism of North Americans especially in Wyoming, North- and South Dakota, Montana, Utah & Pennsylvania everyday on my timeline. The depicted case is no singular event. They systematically hunt down apex predators like foxes, wolves, coyotes, bobcats, mountain lions and also very advantageous animals like oppossums (ticks) and beavers (preventing wildfires and restoring nature) and racoons (pestcontrol).
The images I’ve seen made by Pennsylvanian firefighters(!) hunting down foxes in fundraising hunting events were just harrowing.
Then those sick in the head hunters & trappers and their spoiled kids pose themselves as the only viable solution to regulating overpopulating tick-ridden ruminants or the recent superboar infestation after they killed of all their natural predators.
I wish them good luck with CWD and Alpha-Gal ticks in deers when they’ve exterminated the species that could effectively render CWD harmless:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34753180/
But thank god your precious livestock can live. Who needs the 4% wild animals (opposed to the 60% of livestock biomass)?
One of my favorite videos shown by my Environmental Science professor in community college, for anyone who hasn’t seen it.
Be warned, the video starts with a bunch of wolves howling, so watch the volume on your speakers/phone/headphones/etc.
Fingers crossed for a very specific 22nd.
Please sign & share this petitions to protect those beautiful and social animals from the only real beast called homo sapiens:
https://www.change.org/p/protect-northern-rockies-wolves
https://www.relistwolves.org/wyoming-action
Please support these guys if you’re able to:
I mean, I get it, it’s a wolf and can pose a danger to livestock and or people. But if you are aiming to kill it, then just shoot it in the head for a clean kill, if you miss the clean kill get up and put it out of it’s misery.
What demented kind of fuck gets pleasure doing this. The poor animal is just doing it’s thing and being what nature made it. It didn’t have a choice to be born a wolf instead of a Chihuahua.
I believe wolves are endangered in the wild though, aren’t they?
They’ve had to be reintroduced in some areas because they were killed off.
I think there’s a term for that but I’m not sure what exactly it is.
An animal’s population is counted as distinct between the wild groups and the groups in reserves and captivity. So I think it’s correct to say that they are endangered in the wild.
Extirpated.
Depends on the area.
They’re not in danger of extinction.
Not that it makes it right but their populations are stable enough that hunting doesn’t threaten them. Especially with protected reserves to serve as sanctuaries - like Yellowstone.
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Details of where I’m talking about we’re already included in the context of the original comment and my reply mentioning Yellowstone. We’re talking the American West.
Here’s proof - https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/wolf-restoration.htm
Legal Status of a Recovered Population
The biological requirements for removing the wolf from the endangered species list have been achieved: at least 300 wolves and three consecutive years of at least 30 breeding pairs across three recovery areas.
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At some point there is a line drawn in the sand that “xyz” means they are no longer in danger of going extinct. It may just be a text book definition but thats what the person is showing you. You can disagree and say “it suggests the opposite” or it doesn’t provide proof, but that take can be applied to anything.
We can say humans are going to be going extinct because of the climate crisis. While a valid concern it may not meet the text book definition of going extinct so we are not on the list.
Dis this man they can’t be added back later? No of course not. But at this point in time whoever makes up the rules think they meet the criteria for being labeled a recovering population.
Yellowstone is a federal park that has federal rules protecting them.
States can bitch and moan all they want but there is a massive reserve dedicated to keeping them alive and their population in that reserve is not at any risk of going extinct.
By your logic (IE they could be killed off) - everything is always in danger of going extinct because not immortal and omnipotent creatures outside of the realm of human influence.
that’s great news, actually. but even if they weren’t endangered, still no excuse for torturing the animal before killing it.
This wouldn’t even be news if that piece of shit had just killed her cleanly like a normal functioning human that’s capable of even a drop of empathy. The fact that he hurt and tortured a wolf pup like this is what’s most revolting to me. I also hate that there are really no consequences for torturing wildlife apparently? That’s weird. There definitely should be. Civilized society should penalize any form of torture because nobody worth anything wants to do that.
Using guns to kill predators is a serious skill issue. We gotta use spears and bows like our ancestors of old did. /S
This but unironically
Hey so this might be weird but uh… How can i send them ? Anyone got his email or somethin ? Wouldn’t he have changed it ? Just wanna make that fucker lose some sleep .
Horseshoe theory illustrated.
Horseshoe theory is so stupid the only thing it says is that more extreme groups use more extreme measures it doesn’t mean they are anything alike and comparing that to a horseshoe is nonsensical
What I’m getting at is that guy used the very same language as some crazy MAGA loser but because he’s saying it for a “just” cause he thinks it’s alright. If he said that about an abortion doctor there would be outrage.
Sounds like you two would get along just fine
Were you born without a brain, or was it a surgical procedure?
Probably a hereditary trait 😔
Yeah the soldiers that killed nazis are just the same as the nazis!
No we wouldn’t i would never ever hurt an animal like that . What drove you to the conclusion i would like someon like him ? You don’t know anything about me so please do stfu.
It’s fucked up that it takes this kind of outrage to get animal abuse charges against this guy. Laws exist in nearly every state that can bring felony charges for this kind of thing, but animal abusers are so rarely charged, let alone convicted.
Man, that sad, defeated face in the wolf. The title made me think it was just torture and I assumed he got saved. But the fucker killed it. He deserves every shit he gets.
He deserves to be _ himself. I have zero sympathy for the guy who tortures and kills animals for “fun”.
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Here let me help you out.
I hope this guy crashes his fake ass truck into a fucking tree in the middle of nowhere, without a seatbelt and then slowly dies from his injuries. Pieces of shit like this, do not belong in civilized society.
I hope he doesn’t die. I hope he’s injured critically and bedridden in a hospital with enough brain trauma to need to stay hospitalized but not so much that he’s unaware of his situation.
I hope he experiences what I’ve seen with CON patients so many times before as their family slowly abandons them. It starts out with visits every day, then life gets busy. Next thing you know, it’s once a week. Once a month. Holidays only. When they can remember. A few times, even once a year.
Then the outright shame avoidance starts where your family wishes they could forget you exist. They may stop visit all together. All along I wish this man bedridden in the same room the rest of his hopefully long long life, watching reruns of parks and rec and the office. Knowing the family that has abandoned him. Kids that dont visit. A wife who has found someone new.
I hope he lives through all that and is put on suicide watch so he is restrained to his bed and forced to dope up on antidepressants and antipsychotics. And I hope he lives to be 100.
The only problem is someone has to pay for all that. And I wouldn’t want to impose this pile of shit on workers of a medical system whose time is too valuable for assholes like this who undoubtedly deny vaccines and Covid and probably arrive to the hospital to strain the system already too much.
Bet you could find volunteers for this one
Do you really want to wipe his shitty asshole as volunteer work?
Someone should treat him how he treated that wolf and likely countless other animals.
SimoneSomeone should start a go fund me for some lifers commissary in exchange for what you suggested.
I dunno I wonder how much of this thread believes in rehabilitative justice when it’s convenient for them to do so, but will then turn around and advocate for extreme eye for an eye style punitive, retributive justice whenever it strikes their moral fancy. If it was seen as socially acceptable to go to the coliseum and see people thrown off of large wooden towers, or to go and look at the gallows, I can guarantee we’d still probably do it.
I also don’t think this act requires psychopathy, or else you’d probably have to classify like, every teenage boy who kicks over an anthill or tries to shoot a squirrel with a bb gun as a psychopath. No, I think probably the fact that he paraded it through the town and bragged about it is the biggest indication that, much like the people in this thread, he thought he was doing something morally justified and cool.
Maybe finally I’d just like to ask the question of, if you don’t actually want this guy to be horribly tortured and killed, or become some sort of adverse strain on the medical industry, become disabled, dependant on medical care (really revealing of your opinions of the elderly and disabled there, guys), then why are you calling for these things? These things which you do not actually believe should happen? Probably it’s because your brain’s been rotted by social media which I can appreciate, but still, I must chastize you for it, because when I do it, it’s morally justified and cool. While I don’t think that “death threats” from random people usually carry with them the same kind of weight as when political pundits call for the deaths of a given population or even a single person, and it’s unlikely that this guy actually gets tortured with all the fixin’s and trappin’s of a cut off your toes style collections agency, I still think it’s pretty morally repugnant and obviously unproductive to send this guy hate mail. At least package some ricin in it or something, if you really care, c’mon.
I don’t actually care if you go scoop out this guy’s eyes with pomegranate spoons or take your toenail clippers to his teeth or whatever, or maybe like. Leave him in the unrefrigerated milk and honey bath for several weeks. You know, lest I be accused of being an animal torturer, or complicit in animal torture, which, really beating the witch hunt allegations there, Simone. No, I don’t really care about that shit, what I do mostly care about is that it’s fucking annoying to see a bunch of presumably men but also women who are unable to experience emotional distress without wanting to call for an eye gougathon. It’s okay to be sad and kind of mad that this shitlord is basically going to get away with this, as it would seem. I don’t think it’s healthy or productive to vent your emotions at this random person, though.
I could also maybe call out the “well, are you guys vegan?” hypocrisy that everyone else has already done, but I’m not a vegan and I don’t care because I don’t have morals, so I’ll leave that to them.
Thank you for your time.
You advocate for a fair justice system when you’re rational because you know at some point you’re going to have an irrational reaction. It’s the entire point.
And you wouldn’t classify a kid shooting a squirrel for fun as psychopathy? It doesn’t necessarily have to mean anything but I’d definitely see it as a warning sign. Killing anything just for fun the fun of it seems weird to me.
I don’t have morals
I still think it’s pretty morally repugnant
I dunno I wonder how much of this thread believes in rehabilitative justice when it’s convenient for them to do so, but will then turn around and advocate for extreme eye for an eye style punitive, retributive justice whenever it strikes their moral fancy.
Well.
