• abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    We need to build special roads so self driving cars can navigate properly.

    You could even connect self driving cars together, by letting the front car pull them the others could save their batteries.

    And with these “trains” of self driving cars pulling each other, you wouldn’t have to build the self driving car roads very wide, they could just run on narrow “tracks” for the wheels.

    Then we’d have more space for human stuff instead of car stuff like roads and parking lots everywhere.

    He’s done it again. Elon Musk is a god damn genius.

  • Arotrios@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    JFC that’s frightening. It blew that red at about 30mph, didn’t even really slow down except for the curve.

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      Because the car didn’t recognize it as a red light, probably due to all the green lights that were facing a similar direction.

      The issue is not the speed at which it took the turn, but that it cannot distinguish which traffic lights are for the lane the car is in.

    • amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz
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      Bill the manufacturer 100%, IMO. Thats why I think self driving cars beg an unanswerable legal question, as when the car drives for you, why would you be at fault? How will businesses survive if they have to take full accountability for accidents caused by self-driving cars?

      I think its almost always pointless to hold back innovation, but in this case I think a full ban on self driving cars would be a great move.

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        1 year ago

        The most basic driving like long stretches of highway shouldn’t be banned from using AI/automated driving. The fast paced inner city driving should be augmented but not fully automatic. Same goes for driving in inclement weather: augmented with hard limits on speed and automated braking for anything that could result in a crash

        Edit: I meant this statement as referring to the technology in it’s current consumer form (what is available to the public right at this moment). I fully expect that as the technology matures so will the percentage of incidents decline. We are likely to attain a largely driverless society one day in my lifetime

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          “Self driving with driver assist” or whatever they call it when it isn’t 100% automated is basically super fancy cruise control and should be treated as such. The main problem with the term autopilot is that for airplanes it means 100% control and very misleading when used for fancy cruise control in cars.

          I agree that it should be limited in use to highways and other open roads, like when cruise control should be used. People using cruise control in the city without being in control to brake is the same basic issue.

          Not 100% fully automated with no expectation of driver involvement should be allowed when it has surpassed regular drivers. To be honest, we might even be there with how terrible human drivers are…

          • Amju Wolf@pawb.social
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            Autopilot in aircraft is actually kinda comparable, it still needs a skilled human operator to set it up and monitor it (and other flight controls) all of the time. And in most modes it’s not even really all that autonomous - at most it follows a pre-programmed route.

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    1 year ago

    So sick of shit like this getting posted. Of course the software is not perfect. There are so many warnings about it not being independent of driver intervention it’s crazy. Yet here we are with the entire internet hating on Musk so much that we have to tear down the evolution of self driving cars, which is arguably the most complicated computing and programming problem in history. Bring on the downvotes but for the record, I think Musk is a douchebag but can separately appreciate the effort involved in the herculean task of programming cars that drive themselves.

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      I think it’s not a case of the software not being perfect, but that they are actively breaking in live environments, where it is amazingly critical that they not break. If that is an issue, then they need to get to such a level of confidence were they don’t need to worry about breaking, which tesla is apparently not at currently.

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    1 year ago

    He was prolly fired bc he couldn’t program the thing to stop at a red light.

    Also who knows when this footage was taken or if it was just test footage that has since been ironed out.

    • iByteABit [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      Just the fact that you think programming a car to stop at a red light is a one man task is enough to show how much you know about what you’re talking about